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THE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD
Gerard Kelly, Catholic Institute of Sydney
I would like to begin this short reflection on the attributes of God by referring to two texts from what Christians call the Old Testament or Hebrew Scriptures. The first is the account of Moses at the burning bush in the Book of Exodus; the second is the Shema Prayer in the Book of Deuteronomy. These take us to the very core of belief in God, and will enable us to move to the New Testament and the Christian era, and consider the attributes of God as elaborated by Christians.
The Burning Bush
I’m sure we all know the incident of Moses before the burning bush. He is walking along, sees a bush that is burning, but notices that it is not consumed. As he approaches to get a closer look God calls out to him, announcing that God is the God of his fathers, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. We know there is something sacred going on here; the scene is filled with awe. Moses is told to take his shoes off, because the ground is holy ground, and we hear that he is afraid to look. Then God announces that he has seen the misery of his people in Egypt and that he is going to come down, deliver them from their bondage, and bring them into the promised land. Moses is to have a special place in God’s plan, and is told to visit Pharaoh. As the story unfolds Moses seems to become a little bolder, and asks God ‘What is your name?’ He needs to be able to tell the people who it is that gives him this command. God replies with that very strange phrase, difficult to translate, but which usually appears in our bibles as ‘I am who I am’.
In this ancient and captivating incident we have the attributes of God placed before us in all their subtlety and brevity. In the first place we can speak of the holiness of God or the otherness of God. This is clear from the sense of awe created by the scene, as well as the reaction of Moses. Here is a transcendent God who is beyond what Moses can see, and beyond this world.
But at the same time we can say that God is close. God speaks a word to Moses and communicates to Moses; God reveals himself to Moses. This suggests the immanence of God. This is a God who is close to his people and has entered into a relationship with them. This God is a personal God. Of course, we have already had a glimpse of this in the accounts of creation where God speaks with Adam in the cool of the evening.
The immanence of God and the personal relationship God sets up with the people whom he has created is seen even more intensely when God is moved by the misery the people suffer. Here we see another important attribute of God, namely that this is a God who saves. While at this stage the saving will of God seems to be focused on the people he has chosen as his own, as the knowledge of God develops among this people (and we see this in the pages of the Bible) it is apparent that God’s saving will is universal. Thus we can say that another attribute of God is his desire for all people to be saved.
The God Moses met at the burning bush was not an abstract notion, but a personal God, known through his speech and his action. Christian doctrine has emphasised that God is revealed in the unfolding of history, the history of salvation. People have encounter God through that mysterious inter-connection of God’s word and God’s deeds. Let me quote a passage from the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, in its Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation, promulgated at the Second Vatican Council in 1965:
The pattern of revelation unfolds through deeds and words bound together by an inner dynamism, in such a way that God’s works, effected during the course of the history of salvation, show forth and confirm the doctrine and the realities signified by the words, while the words in turn proclaim the works and throw light on the meaning hidden in them (n.2).[1]
Now this doctrine tells us something more about God. If God speaks and acts in such a way that speech and act are bound together in an inner dynamism, then we must say that God acts with reason. This is something that Christian theology has taken very seriously. It is evident in the way Christian faith has made ample use of Greek philosophical thought to speak about God, in such a way that there is no incompatibility between, on the one hand, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and on the other hand, the God of the philosophers. The notion that holds together these apparently different views of God is found in the Greek word Logos, which we usually translate as ‘Word’. When used in relation to God, it highlights that God is reasonable. But it is also a word that is used in our New Testament to affirm the word and action of God in salvation history, stressing a personal God as well as both the immanence and transcendence of God. I shall return to this later on.
There is one final point we need to make in relation to the incident of the burning bush, and it concerns the name of God. It is true that God is without name; that no one can utter the name of God and live. But God utters a name, which in fact is probably not a name, to Moses. This ‘name’ asserts being. Here we have the foundation for the biblical revelation that God is eternal and different from all other gods. As the psalmist says, ‘The Lord is great and worthy of all praise, to be feared above all gods; the gods of the heathens are naught’ (Ps 96:4-5). Later Christian theology will speak of God as Esse (using the Latin verb ‘to be’). God is pure being. This means that God is not a creature, that God is distinct from the world and that there was never a time when God was not.
The Shema Prayer
The second text I indicated that I want to look at is the Shema Prayer: ‘Hear, O Israel: the Lord is our God, the Lord alone’ (Deut 6:4). Pope Benedict appeals to this text in his encyclical letter, Deus caritas est. He says (n.9) that there are two significant facts about this statement. The first is that all other gods are not God. This means that the universe has its source in God. God is creator. We can correlate this with the opening pages of our Bible and the account of creation in the book of Genesis. There we hear that constant refrain, ‘God said…’, uttered at each moment of the creation. ‘The whole world, then, comes into existence by God’s creative Word’ (n.9). Here let me recall my earlier statement about God’s revelation unfolding through God’s word and God’s deeds, which are bound together by an inner dynamism. Our God creates by speaking a Word, a logos.
The second fact that Pope Benedict draws our attention to is a consequence of this, namely that God loves humankind, who is his creation. This, of course, is the theme of Benedict’s encyclical: that God is love. For Benedict, this is the primary attribute of God, and the others are related to it. This attribute is characterised both by eros, which is God’s passion for the people, and by agape, which indicates that it is a love that is bestowed gratuitously and without any merit on the part of human beings.
There is an important consequence arising from this. Because God is love, and this is a love that reaches out to human beings, they are drawn into that love and into life with God. In other words, they are made in the image and likeness of God. Now, I believe that following this insight we should be able to show that any of the attributes of God can help us understand human beings. The Christian writer, Irenaeus, in the second century, explored this in his reflection on God the creator. Using the biblical and philosophical concepts of his day he affirmed that God alone is, and that human beings are becoming. (Note the contrast between being and becoming). The goal of God’s creative activity is that we might ‘become’ according to the image and likeness of God. This idea is particularly strong in the theology of the East, and is referred to as the divinisation of the human person. Far from undermining the uniqueness and oneness of God, it reaffirms that God is Being – as the Biblical text says, the Lord is our God, the Lord alone – and concludes that creatures are dependent on God, that they are always changing, and that they have the capacity to change according to the image and likeness of God.
Jesus and the New Testament
This seems the right moment to speak about Jesus, the Christ. Benedict XVI makes an important point, that the revelation of God in the New Testament continues the revelation we have just been speaking about, given in the Old Testament. It does not overturn it or contradict it. He wrote in his encyclical: ‘the real novelty of the New Testament lies not so much in new ideas as in the figure of Christ himself, who gives flesh and blood to those concepts – an unprecedented realism’ (n.12). This takes us to the core Christian belief about God, namely the Incarnation. We need to consider step by step what this tells us about the attributes of God.
In the first instance we can consider the words and deeds of Jesus. Through his words and deeds – be it in parables or his miracles – he revealed God to those whom he encountered. We see re-affirmed for us the love of God, the mercy of God, and the saving will of God. We need think only, for example, of Jesus’ encounter with a leper early in Mark’s Gospel (Mk 1:40ff). The leper says, ‘If you choose, you can make me clean’. To which Jesus, moved with pity, replies, ‘I do choose. Be made clean!’ Notice here the echo of God’s words to Moses, ‘I have seen the misery of my people’. Or we can think of the parable referred to as the Prodigal Son (Lk 15:11ff). It is a story of a young son who takes his inheritance and moves away from his father, to a strange land where he squanders the inheritance and ends up lost and no better than a slave. He decides to return to his father and request permission to enter the property as one of the servants. But the father reacts with great generosity by welcoming him back as a son. He puts on a feast because the son who was lost is found; the son who was dead has come to life. The point of the parable is that it reveals that God is a God of mercy. Furthermore, it is a mercy that extends far beyond the normal bounds of human mercy.
The words and deeds of Jesus reveal God in a concrete way. They remind us that the fundamental image Jesus gives of God is ‘Father’. But we are also being told something about Jesus. Christians speak of Jesus as the self-revelation of God, and the completion of the revelation of God (in the sense of the fullness of revelation). Let me quote once again from the Second Vatican Council’s Constitution on Divine Revelation. You will recall from my earlier quote that it was speaking about the revelation of God taking place in the unfolding of the history of salvation. It goes on to say: ‘By this revelation the truth, both about God and about the salvation of humankind, inwardly dawns on us in Christ, who is in himself both the mediator and the fullness of all revelation’ (n.2). Even in the Gospels we see the tension that this causes, as when the healing of a leper or the forgiveness of sins raises questions. The religious leaders ask: ‘Who is this who is speaking blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God alone?’ (Lk 5:21). The very question tells us the meaning of incarnation, namely that God is revealed not just in a particular historical situation, but most especially in the flesh of Jesus.
The meaning of incarnation becomes even clearer as Jesus approaches his death. The love of God, which is manifest in God’s universal salvific will, is witnessed in the concrete act of Jesus who goes to his death. This is the ultimate revelation of God’s love – a selfless love, which has seen the misery of his people and wants to save them, a love that seeks the good of all creation.
The first Christians very quickly came to recognise that in Jesus they encounter God, and that God has become flesh and lives among them. In the New Testament we see various ways of expressing this. One of the earliest expressions is found in the Pauline letters:
He (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; for in him all things in heaven and on earth were created, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominations or rulers or powers – all things have been created through him and for him. He himself is before all things, and in him all things hold together. … For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, by making peace through the blood of his cross. (Col 1:15-17, 19-20)
This text affirms the attributes of God that I identified earlier when looking at the texts from the Old Testament. It speaks of God as transcendent, as eternal, as creator, as immanent, and as saviour.
Another expression, but a different one, is found in the Gospel accounts of the conception and birth of Jesus. We are told that the angel Gabriel addresses Mary, who is to be the mother of Jesus and says, ‘The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be holy; he will be called Son of God’ (Lk 1:35). This child will be like us, but also unlike us. The imagery suggests a child who is both human and divine. Later Christian faith will affirm the uniqueness of Jesus.
The opening chapter of St John’s gospel takes this to an even deeper level. Echoing the opening chapter of the Book of Genesis, it speaks about the beginning: ‘In the beginning was the Word (logos), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. All things came into being with him, and without him not one thing came into being’ (Jn 1:1-3). As we hear these words we are hearing nothing that is at odds with those attributes of God that we identified from the Old Testament. But St John goes on to write: ‘And the Word became flesh and lived among us, and we have seen his glory, the glory as of a father’s only son, full of grace and truth’ (Jn 1:14).
It is important to note that for Christian faith this declaration does not contradict the oneness of God. In fact it is consistent with what I have said often this evening, that God is revealed in his word and his deeds. We need to consider the logic of this. Perhaps an analogy will help: the words I am speaking here and now do not have being or existence apart from me. Similarly, the Word of God does not have a separate being from God. As Christians reflected on God and the nature of God in the centuries after the resurrection of Jesus they eventually found a way to express this in a formulation that is now used in our Creed or Profession of Faith – a profession that is used each week in our worship. They spoke of Jesus as ‘of one being with the Father’. There were also other images to convey the unity of God, for example, ‘light from light’.
The Trinity
You will notice now that I have begun to use images to speak of God. There is nothing new in this – indeed, the burning bush was an image to speak about God. This practice reminds us that any language we use about God is limited. Christian theology has tended to use analogy when speaking about God. I raise this point now because it will help us approach the next thing I must speak about, namely that God is a Trinity. This is very important for our discussion of the attributes of God. In the first place, nothing we say about the Trinity should contradict these attributes. But secondly, Christian reflection on the Trinity should also help us to be even more precise about the attributes of God.
Up to this point I have spoken about God, and have noted that Jesus referred to God as Father. I have also identified Jesus as the Word of God, one in being with the Father. I have only made passing reference to the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Trinity. There was one reference in the infancy narrative, where the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary and she conceived. Our Creed puts it this way: ‘Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary’. But later in the gospel Jesus breathes on his disciples and says, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit’. If we had time we could look more closely at the Old Testament and identify the breath of God, the Spirit of God, who comes to renew the earth.
But let me return to the idea of analogy, for that is the way that Christian theology has tried to comprehend the mystery of God. A very early analogy was to speak of the Son as the Word of God and the Spirit as the breath of God. St Augustine, in the fifth century, used a couple of analogies.[2] One was the analogy of mutual love. Various thinkers over the centuries have developed this. A fairly mature expression of it is found in the twelfth century theologian, Richard of St Victor. The analogy goes like this. God is the fullness and perfection of all goodness. Because charity or love is the perfection of all goodness, God must possess charity to the highest degree. Now charity, by its very nature, involves another. In other words, the greatest charity is the self-transcending love for another. Therefore, within the Godhead there must be self-transcending love for another co-equal person. Furthermore, because mutual love, if it is to be perfect, must be shared, the lover and the beloved share their love. Now, with this analogy we have the Father and the Son understood as the lover and the beloved, and the Holy Spirit as the fruit of their love. The distinction of persons only exists within the Godhead while the unity of God is maintained.
The second type of analogy, again going back to Augustine, is called the psychological analogy, because it is based on the process of human knowing and loving. This analogy was also developed in subsequent centuries and reached a high degree of maturity in St Thomas Aquinas in the thirteenth century. His starting point is that God is Esse or pure ‘Being’. He argues that in God, to be, to know and to love perfectly coincide. Within God, the act of self-understanding (or knowing) issues in the Verbum or what I have referred to earlier as the logos. Further, the intellect delights in its understanding. This delight or joy, is expressed as love – God’s self-love. This is the Holy Spirit.
Now, I appreciate that I have presented this in a very summary form, and rather quickly. It is necessary to mention it, however, because Christians believe that God is a Trinity. This belief can be misunderstood in a variety of ways, including, quite dangerously, as tri-theism. I hope that the analogies I have just presented indicate, in the first place, that the understanding of God as Trinity continues to affirm the oneness of God. Secondly, I want to make a further claim, and it is that a proper understanding of the Trinity safeguards the attributes of God.
Safeguarding the attributes of God
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity intends to safeguard both the transcendence and the immanence of God.[3] In those cases where the divine immanence is denied – and this would include both the denial of the Incarnation or a misunderstanding of it – God ends up being remote and distant. The classic expression of this is what is referred to as Deism.
In other instances, where the transcendence of God is denied, God ends up being either just one being among others, or else an impersonal force. You either end up with a creature who is not God, or you end up with a notional god, sometimes referred to as the ‘god of the gaps’. In other words, when there is no other answer to the mysteries of the created order, you appeal to a notion of god.
In other forms of the denial of the transcendence of God you end up with pantheism, where the whole created order is identified with God. This, too denies the attribute of God as Creator, and thus distinct from creation. The Incarnation, properly understood, will guard against this.
Conclusion
Let me conclude by saying that I don’t think we should pretend that the Christian doctrine of God is always easy to comprehend. The attributes of God are like a series of checks and balances. There is always one attribute that needs to be balanced with another. The task of theologians is to study these and to find ways of speaking about God that respects them. We should note, however, that even before there is theological language to speak about God, people use the language of worship to pray to God. In an almost instinctive way the prayer of the Christian people respects the various attributes of God. In a real sense their religious experience and their faith in God coincide.
Ultimately, of course, we all stand humbly before the mystery of God. Let me finish with the words of St Paul:
O the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgements and how inscrutable his ways! ‘For who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counsellor? Or who has given a gift to him, to receive a gift in return?’ For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be the glory forever. Amen. (Rom 11:33-36)
This is the text of a presentation made at St Patrick’s Cathedral Parish Hall, at the invitation of Bishop Kevin Manning, as part of a dialogue between Christian and Muslim friends, on 26 April 2007.
[1] English translation from Decrees of the Ecumenical Councils, edited by Norman P. Tanner (London: Washington: Sheed & Ward/Georgetown University Press, 1990), vol II.
[2] For this discussion on analogy in Richard of St Victor and Thomas Aquinas I am relying on Anne Hunt, Trinity (Maryknoll: Orbis, 2005), 17-26.
[3] In this discussion on misunderstandings of God I am relying on John H. Wright, “God” in The New Dictionary of Theology, Joseph A. Komonchak, Mary Collins & Dermot Lane, eds (Wilmington: Glazier, 1988), 430.
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Tuesday, February 24, 2009
The Attributes of God, speech by Rev. Helen Richmond
"The Attributes of God: How we experience God" 26 April 2007
How do we experience God? Each person’s story in its own way is unique and wonderful. Thank you for inviting me tonight to share a little of my own experience and also to reflect on this in the context of the attributes of God.
My spirit was nurtured in a number of ways from childhood. Growing up in beautiful bush land – I had an affinity with all creepy crawlies, lizards specially and frogs, caterpillars, and cicadas! In this way I was responding to the beauty and wonder of God’s creation. Today still I find that going walking in the bush renews my spirit and my favourite sound is the sound of the wind in gum trees.
I grew up as the 4th girl in my family. Perhaps you don’t expect too much by the time you get to the 4th. But I never doubted I was very much loved. My mother has been a model of faith for me. She was a great woman of prayer. My mother died just over a year ago after living with dementia for a number of years. Much of her memory was stripped from her but she never lost her love for others and her deep love for God. She was not able to put many sentences together by the end but in the last weeks of her life she was still able to say the Lord’s Prayer word for word and sing with great gusto her favorite Methodist hymns that had meant so much to her. Her faith has inspired me.
I grew up in the church and always felt welcomed as part of a loving family. I think that catching faith is a bit like catching the cold- we are affected and infected by the environment we are in!
I have a memorable experience as an almost teenager. I heard, really heard and responded with joy to the good news of God’s love that included me. I was drawn into God’s heart of love and compassion which I saw most clearly in Jesus. This experience set my feet on a spiritual path, following Jesus. A sense of closeness to God has been with me ever since and a sense of finding in Christ, my Companion who has sustained me all my life. I began to read the Scriptures with eagerness and found myself inhabiting the stories. The Bible remains for me Bread that feeds me and it is able to plum the depths of our human experience revealing in a myriad of ways how God is with us.
I have had a number of significant spiritual experiences in my life – one occurred when I was a young adult in Indonesia. I was on my own travelling on the bus in South Sulawesi. As I looked out the bus at men and women and children I had an overwhelming sense of experiencing God’s love for each person. I was connected to everyone else and somehow God was present within each one. On that bus I had a taste of knowing this with every fibre of my being and I felt a sense of call to love God’s creation and share God’s love for this world and all people, findomg ways to build bridges with others.
Believe it or not I was a very shy person, growing up, so shy I found it hard even to stand on stage in the school choir. Somehow though, through my experience of encountering God, I found courage to do things which otherwise would not have been possible.
Of the many attributes of God that we could talk about – one that means a great deal to me is God’s hospitality, God’s welcome.
One story from the Gospels that reflects God’s hospitality familiar to most of us is the parable Jesus told about the Prodigal Son another title could be “A Father and His Boys” because essentially the parable is about two sons who were both lost – one in a far country and the other one right at home. But most of all it about a father’s compassion and forgiveness.
A man has two sons, the younger demands his share of his father’s property. His father gave it to him and he went and lived a wild life and spent all his money. The land suffered a famine and with no money left, the younger son faces hardship. He finds a job looking after pigs for a local farmer- we can not imagine a worst plight for a good Jewish boy. Finally he comes to his senses and realised that his father’s servants were better off than he was. He plans to return home, admit all that he has done wrong and ask his father to take him on as a servant. After a long journey, he approaches the house, only to find that his father has been waiting for him. When he sees him he ran down the road to meet him. A feast was prepared so that everyone could share in the father’s joy. He gave his son a robe, a ring and sandals. But his other son who had been working on the farm hears the news and hears all the singing and celebration. He does not want to go inside.
Jesus told this story at a time when he was being criticised for associating with the wrong kind of people- ‘This man welcomes ‘sinners’ and eats with them’. Some people were genuinely troubled by Jesus actions and were murmuring against him. Jesus then tells this parable- a story about what God is like and in the process he invited people to rethink their attitudes towards others and be caught up in the grace, forgiveness and generosity of God whose love reaches out to include all of us.
So one of the key attributes of God in the Christian tradition is the welcoming God, the God who runs to meet us. I love this rather undignified image of God. This God searches for us until we are found, like the woman who has lost a coin and sweeps the house until she finds it. The God we meet in Jesus is a God who takes on our humanity to redeem it; who makes crossing journeys, entering our human life to show the divinity that is in all of us. This God invites us to eat at his table though we do not deserve to be there.
In the story the elder brother, when his brother returns? He is unable to enter into the joyous occasion. He hangs back and is full of bitterness and anger. He judges his brother’s actions as reprehensible and he finds his fathers’ actions, incomprehensible. “I’ve been working for you for years and I have obeyed everything you have said and you never ever threw a party for me.” He would have preferred his father to have been judging and punishing ..not this.
We are left not knowing the outcome of the story. We don’t know if the two brothers be reconciled but the parable leaves us in no doubt that God’s compassionate love is boundless. Who are we to deny God’s grace and forgiveness to others.
Jesus made God’s hospitality the hallmark of His inclusive community. He converses with outcastes, a Samaritan woman, a Roman centurian. He risks making himself unclean when he touches the sick and associates with sinners.
Later Paul writing to the church in Roman would say “Welcome one another therefore, just as Christ has welcomed you, for the glory of God” Romans 15: 7
And one of the NT words for hospitality is the Greek term philoxenia. It combines the word for ‘phileo’(kinship love) and ‘xenos’(stranger). Sadly we are probably more familiar with the term “xenophobia” –fear of strangers than philoxenia. The biblical meaning of hospitality means much more than inviting our relatives and friends over for a meal! It is about extending ourselves to make space in our hearts for the stranger. And it this is only possible when we have first experienced the generous hospitality of God.
At God’s table, we are all invited guests, so we are to make room for others in our lives, becoming communities that actively extend the hospitality of God to one another. One New Testament image for the Kingdom of God is people from all nations sitting together at a banquet feast. (Luke 13: 9) ‘People will come from north, south, east and west and feast together in the kingdom.’ The vision of heaven is of the gathering of people from every tribe, people and language. (Rev 7: 9)
In my understanding God’s Holy Spirit is present wherever we see signs of hospitality- philoxenia, love of the stranger. In some cultures hospitality, in the biblical sense, is highly valued, something that Western culture has been in danger of losing. I know I learnt a great deal from one another. I know it was during my time in Indonesia that was I experienced hospitality, and it was often in the homes of Muslim friends.
Later next month Christians around the world celebrate Pentecost. The third great feast day in the Christian calendar alongside Christmas and Easter. In different ways each of these three festivals invite us to welcome the ‘Divine Stranger’ who comes into our lives in ways we least expect, disturbing us, turning our life upside down, challenging us and bringing a blessing.
God comes as a divine stranger waiting for us to invite him into our lives, asking us to discover in the face of each other, a family resemblance not based on colour, language, ethnicity or race.
Pentecost is the celebration of the gift of the Holy Spirit. On the first Pentecost a miracle happened -everyone present was able to hear the Apostle’s message each in their own language.
The God who sends the Holy Spirit is a God who affirms and celebrates our different languages and cultural identities.
It was because of the gift of the Holy Spirit that the early church was able to transform itself into a community that could embrace cultural and ethnic diversity and say- with God there is no in so doing was witnessing to the reconciling power of the Gospel. It was a great challenge for the early Christians to live together Jewish and Gentile Christians. This meant rethinking many things including some aspects of their Jewish traditions such as their purity code. Some things they laid aside.
Jesus also challenged aspects of his Jewish tradition. This shows me that whilst it is important to cherish our sacred traditions- there may be times when God leads us in some new directions, so that God’s love and compassion can more truly be experienced by others and for that reason we need to be constantly open to the Spirit who is the wind of God blowing us in the new direction we need to take. I believe our commitment to interfaith dialogue is one such direction that the Spirit is blowing us.
It is not clear why God made the world which such diversity. Maybe there is a purpose of God still not fully clear to us, for making different human communities to stretch our compassion, so we learn ways of relating to one another based on mutuality, trust and respect, so we can always be open to receive the Divine Stranger who comes in ways we don’t always expect.
When we welcome into our hearts the stranger, in a mysterious way, we truly welcome God. So the attribute of God most important to me when we come to interfaith dialogue is a sense of recognizing that God is bigger than we can fully understand or imagine, God’s love can not be limited, and whilst there is much we might see differently, God’s Spirit is the one who is the ‘Go Between’- who links hearts towards a common vision, a common purpose, a common song, to love God with our whole being and to love one another.
How do we experience God? Each person’s story in its own way is unique and wonderful. Thank you for inviting me tonight to share a little of my own experience and also to reflect on this in the context of the attributes of God.
My spirit was nurtured in a number of ways from childhood. Growing up in beautiful bush land – I had an affinity with all creepy crawlies, lizards specially and frogs, caterpillars, and cicadas! In this way I was responding to the beauty and wonder of God’s creation. Today still I find that going walking in the bush renews my spirit and my favourite sound is the sound of the wind in gum trees.
I grew up as the 4th girl in my family. Perhaps you don’t expect too much by the time you get to the 4th. But I never doubted I was very much loved. My mother has been a model of faith for me. She was a great woman of prayer. My mother died just over a year ago after living with dementia for a number of years. Much of her memory was stripped from her but she never lost her love for others and her deep love for God. She was not able to put many sentences together by the end but in the last weeks of her life she was still able to say the Lord’s Prayer word for word and sing with great gusto her favorite Methodist hymns that had meant so much to her. Her faith has inspired me.
I grew up in the church and always felt welcomed as part of a loving family. I think that catching faith is a bit like catching the cold- we are affected and infected by the environment we are in!
I have a memorable experience as an almost teenager. I heard, really heard and responded with joy to the good news of God’s love that included me. I was drawn into God’s heart of love and compassion which I saw most clearly in Jesus. This experience set my feet on a spiritual path, following Jesus. A sense of closeness to God has been with me ever since and a sense of finding in Christ, my Companion who has sustained me all my life. I began to read the Scriptures with eagerness and found myself inhabiting the stories. The Bible remains for me Bread that feeds me and it is able to plum the depths of our human experience revealing in a myriad of ways how God is with us.
I have had a number of significant spiritual experiences in my life – one occurred when I was a young adult in Indonesia. I was on my own travelling on the bus in South Sulawesi. As I looked out the bus at men and women and children I had an overwhelming sense of experiencing God’s love for each person. I was connected to everyone else and somehow God was present within each one. On that bus I had a taste of knowing this with every fibre of my being and I felt a sense of call to love God’s creation and share God’s love for this world and all people, findomg ways to build bridges with others.
Believe it or not I was a very shy person, growing up, so shy I found it hard even to stand on stage in the school choir. Somehow though, through my experience of encountering God, I found courage to do things which otherwise would not have been possible.
Of the many attributes of God that we could talk about – one that means a great deal to me is God’s hospitality, God’s welcome.
One story from the Gospels that reflects God’s hospitality familiar to most of us is the parable Jesus told about the Prodigal Son another title could be “A Father and His Boys” because essentially the parable is about two sons who were both lost – one in a far country and the other one right at home. But most of all it about a father’s compassion and forgiveness.
A man has two sons, the younger demands his share of his father’s property. His father gave it to him and he went and lived a wild life and spent all his money. The land suffered a famine and with no money left, the younger son faces hardship. He finds a job looking after pigs for a local farmer- we can not imagine a worst plight for a good Jewish boy. Finally he comes to his senses and realised that his father’s servants were better off than he was. He plans to return home, admit all that he has done wrong and ask his father to take him on as a servant. After a long journey, he approaches the house, only to find that his father has been waiting for him. When he sees him he ran down the road to meet him. A feast was prepared so that everyone could share in the father’s joy. He gave his son a robe, a ring and sandals. But his other son who had been working on the farm hears the news and hears all the singing and celebration. He does not want to go inside.
Jesus told this story at a time when he was being criticised for associating with the wrong kind of people- ‘This man welcomes ‘sinners’ and eats with them’. Some people were genuinely troubled by Jesus actions and were murmuring against him. Jesus then tells this parable- a story about what God is like and in the process he invited people to rethink their attitudes towards others and be caught up in the grace, forgiveness and generosity of God whose love reaches out to include all of us.
So one of the key attributes of God in the Christian tradition is the welcoming God, the God who runs to meet us. I love this rather undignified image of God. This God searches for us until we are found, like the woman who has lost a coin and sweeps the house until she finds it. The God we meet in Jesus is a God who takes on our humanity to redeem it; who makes crossing journeys, entering our human life to show the divinity that is in all of us. This God invites us to eat at his table though we do not deserve to be there.
In the story the elder brother, when his brother returns? He is unable to enter into the joyous occasion. He hangs back and is full of bitterness and anger. He judges his brother’s actions as reprehensible and he finds his fathers’ actions, incomprehensible. “I’ve been working for you for years and I have obeyed everything you have said and you never ever threw a party for me.” He would have preferred his father to have been judging and punishing ..not this.
We are left not knowing the outcome of the story. We don’t know if the two brothers be reconciled but the parable leaves us in no doubt that God’s compassionate love is boundless. Who are we to deny God’s grace and forgiveness to others.
Jesus made God’s hospitality the hallmark of His inclusive community. He converses with outcastes, a Samaritan woman, a Roman centurian. He risks making himself unclean when he touches the sick and associates with sinners.
Later Paul writing to the church in Roman would say “Welcome one another therefore, just as Christ has welcomed you, for the glory of God” Romans 15: 7
And one of the NT words for hospitality is the Greek term philoxenia. It combines the word for ‘phileo’(kinship love) and ‘xenos’(stranger). Sadly we are probably more familiar with the term “xenophobia” –fear of strangers than philoxenia. The biblical meaning of hospitality means much more than inviting our relatives and friends over for a meal! It is about extending ourselves to make space in our hearts for the stranger. And it this is only possible when we have first experienced the generous hospitality of God.
At God’s table, we are all invited guests, so we are to make room for others in our lives, becoming communities that actively extend the hospitality of God to one another. One New Testament image for the Kingdom of God is people from all nations sitting together at a banquet feast. (Luke 13: 9) ‘People will come from north, south, east and west and feast together in the kingdom.’ The vision of heaven is of the gathering of people from every tribe, people and language. (Rev 7: 9)
In my understanding God’s Holy Spirit is present wherever we see signs of hospitality- philoxenia, love of the stranger. In some cultures hospitality, in the biblical sense, is highly valued, something that Western culture has been in danger of losing. I know I learnt a great deal from one another. I know it was during my time in Indonesia that was I experienced hospitality, and it was often in the homes of Muslim friends.
Later next month Christians around the world celebrate Pentecost. The third great feast day in the Christian calendar alongside Christmas and Easter. In different ways each of these three festivals invite us to welcome the ‘Divine Stranger’ who comes into our lives in ways we least expect, disturbing us, turning our life upside down, challenging us and bringing a blessing.
God comes as a divine stranger waiting for us to invite him into our lives, asking us to discover in the face of each other, a family resemblance not based on colour, language, ethnicity or race.
Pentecost is the celebration of the gift of the Holy Spirit. On the first Pentecost a miracle happened -everyone present was able to hear the Apostle’s message each in their own language.
The God who sends the Holy Spirit is a God who affirms and celebrates our different languages and cultural identities.
It was because of the gift of the Holy Spirit that the early church was able to transform itself into a community that could embrace cultural and ethnic diversity and say- with God there is no in so doing was witnessing to the reconciling power of the Gospel. It was a great challenge for the early Christians to live together Jewish and Gentile Christians. This meant rethinking many things including some aspects of their Jewish traditions such as their purity code. Some things they laid aside.
Jesus also challenged aspects of his Jewish tradition. This shows me that whilst it is important to cherish our sacred traditions- there may be times when God leads us in some new directions, so that God’s love and compassion can more truly be experienced by others and for that reason we need to be constantly open to the Spirit who is the wind of God blowing us in the new direction we need to take. I believe our commitment to interfaith dialogue is one such direction that the Spirit is blowing us.
It is not clear why God made the world which such diversity. Maybe there is a purpose of God still not fully clear to us, for making different human communities to stretch our compassion, so we learn ways of relating to one another based on mutuality, trust and respect, so we can always be open to receive the Divine Stranger who comes in ways we don’t always expect.
When we welcome into our hearts the stranger, in a mysterious way, we truly welcome God. So the attribute of God most important to me when we come to interfaith dialogue is a sense of recognizing that God is bigger than we can fully understand or imagine, God’s love can not be limited, and whilst there is much we might see differently, God’s Spirit is the one who is the ‘Go Between’- who links hearts towards a common vision, a common purpose, a common song, to love God with our whole being and to love one another.
صفات الله وكيف عرفت ربي: كلمة الدكتور إبراهيم أبو محمد
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
عبد يتحدث عن سيده ومولاه
الله ربى إن ربى رحيم ودود
عندما سئل الحسن بن على ما الدليل على وجود الله فأشاح بوجهه عن السائل وقال:
سبحانك ربى متى غبت حتى تحتاج إلى دليل يدل عليك ؟ ومتى كنت بعيدا حتى تكونالأشياء هي المظهرة لك ، عميت عين لاتراك عليها رقيبا ، وخسرت صفقة عبد لم تجعل له من حبك نصيبا ،
وعندما سئل ابو بكر الصديق كيف عرفت ربك يا أبا بكر فقال بربي عرفت ربي ولولا ربي ماعرفت ربي، قالوا فكيف عرفته قال : العجز عن الإدراك إدراك ، والبحث في ذات الله إشراك .
وعندما سئل الإمام على وقيل له أرأيت ربك يا إمام ؟ أجاب وكيف أعبد ما لا أرى ، قالوا فكيف رأيته؟ قال: إن كانت العيون لا تراه بمشاهدة العيان فالقلوب تراه بحقيقة الإيمان،
وعقولنا يا سادة كأجهزة الكهرباء ،مضبوطة على طاقة معينة إذا وضعت تحت ضغط أعلى تعطلت وربما تفجرت.
ومن ثم فإن الحديث عن الله لا يتم إلا بالطريقة التى اختارها الله ليعرفنا بذاته عن طريقها.
§ ولفظ الجلالة(الله) علم على الذات لم يسم بهذا الاسم غيره
الله أول بلا بداية وآخر بلا نهاية.
الله بالبر معروف وبالإحسان موصوف.
الله واحد لا من قلة ، موجود لا من علة .
هُوَ الْأَوَّلُ وَالْآخِرُ وَالظَّاهِرُ وَالْبَاطِنُ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ" الحديد (3)
لا يسأل عنه بأين لأنه خالق المكان ، ولا يسأل عنه بمتى لأنه خالق الزمان .
كان الله ولا شي ، وهو على ما كان، لم يتغير عما كان ، علم ما كان، وعلم ما هو كائن وعلم ما سيكون ، وعلم مالا يكون لو كان كيف كان يكون.
الله يرى كل شي، ويسمع كل شي ، علمه أحاط بكل شئ، ولا تشغله رؤية شئ عن شئ كما لا يشغله سمع شئ عن شئ فهو الذي خلق كل شئ ، وليس كمثله شئ،
وهو السميع البصير.
" اللَّهُ خَالِقُ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ وَهُوَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ وَكِيلٌ. لَهُ مَقَالِيدُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَالَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بِآيَاتِ اللَّهِ أُوْلَئِكَ هُمُ الْخَاسِرُونَ الزمر(62) (63)
وَعِندَهُ مَفَاتِحُ الْغَيْبِ لاَ يَعْلَمُهَا إِلاَّ هُوَ وَيَعْلَمُ مَا فِي الْبَرِّ وَالْبَحْرِ وَمَا تَسْقُطُ مِن وَرَقَةٍ إِلاَّ يَعْلَمُهَا وَلاَ حَبَّةٍ فِي ظُلُمَاتِ الأَرْضِ وَلاَ رَطْبٍ وَلاَ يَابِسٍ إِلاَّ فِي كِتَابٍ مُّبِينٍ" الأنعام (59)
لا يدرك بالحواس ولا يقاس بالناس "لا تدركه الأبصار وهو يدرك الأبصار وهو اللطيف الخبير".الأنعام (103)
§ تفرد وحده بكل صفات الجلال والكمال والجمال ، فكل شئ مقهور لقدرته، خاضع له، راجع إليه وبيده وحده مقاليد كل الأمور، الأرض جميعا قبضته يوم القيامة والسموات مطويات بيمينه سبحانه وتعالى عما يشركون يقول عن ذاته " إنا نحن نحي ونميت وإلينا المصير، يوم تشقق الأرض عنهم سراعا ذلك حشر علينا يسير" ق (43) (44)
وَاللَّهُ خَلَقَكُم مِّن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ مِن نُّطْفَةٍ ثُمَّ جَعَلَكُمْ أَزْوَاجًا وَمَا تَحْمِلُ مِنْ أُنثَى وَلَا تَضَعُ إِلَّا بِعِلْمِهِ وَمَا يُعَمَّرُ مِن مُّعَمَّرٍ وَلَا يُنقَصُ مِنْ عُمُرِهِ إِلَّا فِي كِتَابٍ إِنَّ ذَلِكَ عَلَى اللَّهِ يَسِيرٌ فاطر(11)
اللّهُ يَعْلَمُ مَا تَحْمِلُ كُلُّ أُنثَى وَمَا تَغِيضُ الأَرْحَامُ وَمَا تَزْدَادُ وَكُلُّ شَيْءٍ عِندَهُ بِمِقْدَارٍ عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ وَالشَّهَادَةِ الْكَبِيرُ الْمُتَعَالِ. سَوَاء مِّنكُم مَّنْ أَسَرَّ الْقَوْلَ وَمَن جَهَرَ بِهِ وَمَنْ هُوَ مُسْتَخْفٍ بِاللَّيْلِ وَسَارِبٌ بِالنَّهَارِ الرعد (8) (9) (10)
لاَّ تُدْرِكُهُ الأَبْصَارُ وَهُوَ يُدْرِكُ الأَبْصَارَ وَهُوَ اللَّطِيفُ الْخَبِيرُ الأنعام (103)
فَاطِرُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ جَعَلَ لَكُم مِّنْ أَنفُسِكُمْ أَزْوَاجًا وَمِنَ الْأَنْعَامِ أَزْوَاجًا يَذْرَؤُكُمْ فِيهِ لَيْسَ كَمِثْلِهِ شَيْءٌ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ البَصِيرُ. لَهُ مَقَالِيدُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ يَبْسُطُ الرِّزْقَ لِمَن يَشَاء وَيَقْدِرُ إِنَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ" الشورى (11)(12)
§ خلقنى تفضلا، وجعل الحياة لى محل اختبار وامتحان ليحقق إحسانه إلىًّ وعدله فيًّ
§ لاتنفعه طاعتى ولا تضره معصيتى ومع ذلك كلفنى تشريفا فأمرنى ونهانى أمرنى بكل خير ليسعدنى ونهانى عن كل شرليحمينى
§ بعث إلي رسولا هو رحمة للعالمين فشرح لى كل شئ، فصل لى كل مجمل ووضح لى كل غامض، واشترط على في الإيمان به أن أومن بكل إخوانه من الأنبياء السابقين ، وطالبنى بأن لا أفرق بين أحد منهم ، لأنه هو أيضا صلى الله عليه وسلم لا يفرق بين أحد منهم ولذلك يطلب من أتباعه أن يؤمنوا بكل الرسل والأنبياء ولا يفضلوه على أحد منهم ولا يفرقوا بينهم ،
§ عرفنى من أنا ومن أين جئت ، ولماذا جئت، وإلى أين أصير، حدد لى هدفى ودورى ورسالتى في هذه الدنيا.
§ أنزل لى شريعة تكمل كل الشرائع السماوية السابقة وقال لى في كتابه الذي أنزله "شَرَعَ لَكُم مِّنَ الدِّينِ مَا وَصَّى بِهِ نُوحًا وَالَّذِي أَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْكَ وَمَا وَصَّيْنَا بِهِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَمُوسَى وَعِيسَى أَنْ أَقِيمُوا الدِّينَ وَلَا تَتَفَرَّقُوا فِيهِ كَبُرَ عَلَى الْمُشْرِكِينَ مَا تَدْعُوهُمْ إِلَيْهِ اللَّهُ يَجْتَبِي إِلَيْهِ مَن يَشَاء وَيَهْدِي إِلَيْهِ مَن يُنِيبُ" الشورى (13)
وهي شريعة تحمينى وتحمي الحياة كلها من حولى بيئة وبشرا ومكانا،
§ علمنى من خلالها أن الحياة للكائنات كلها مقدسة فلا يجوز العدوان عليها،وأن الإنسان بنيان الله ملعون من هدمه، وأنه من قتل نفسا بغيرنفس أو فساد في الأرض فكأنما قتل الناس جميعا، ومن أحياها فكأنما أحيا الناس جميعا"
§ علمنى من خلال تلك الشريعة أن أضيف إلى عناصر الجمال في الوجود والكون جمالا جديدا ، وأن أحاصر دوافع القبح والشر في الناس والأشياء قدرما أستطيع وطالبنى بالكف عن فعل الفساد فقال لى "ولا تفسدوا في الأرض بعد إصلاحها"، وعلمنى أيضا أن حماية البئة ونظافة الشارع والمحافظة على النظام العام جزء من الإيمان وطالبنى أن ألقى الناس بوجه طلق وأن اتعاون معهم في إذالة الأذى وأن القلب الكبير هو الذي يشارك الآخرين أفراحهم حين يكون حزينا ويشركهم أحزانهم حين يكون مسرورا، فقال لى " تبسمك في وجه أخيك صدقة، وإماطة الأذى والشوك عن الطريق صدقة،وإرشادك الرجل في أرض الضلال صدقة، وإفراغك من دلوك في دلو أخيك صدقة،
§ علمنى أنه خلق الأرض للناس جميعا، فقال " والأرض وضعها للأنام"
§ وان الإيمان بالتعددية في الدين والجنس واللغة والتعايش معها ليس خيارا إنسانيا يفعله من يشاء او يتخلى عنه متى شاء، وإنما هو سنة من سنن الله في الوجود، وأن أعلى الناس قدرا ومكانة وكرامة عند الله هو من يترفع فوق الضغائن والأحقاد ويتسامح مع الاخرين، ويضم ملكاته وخبراته للآخرين فيساهم في تقدم الإنسانية وترقية الحياة وفق القاعدة الإسلامية العظيمة خير الناس أنفعهم للناس ، والخلق كلهم عيال الله وأحب الناس إلى الله أنفعهم لعياله.
§ تعلمت من تجارب الناس أن الحرية معنى لا يصلح في الحياة إلا مقيدا. وعلمنى دينى أن الحرية معنى لا يصلح في الحياة إلا محددا ، وفرق بين أن تتحدث عن قيود تكبل وتعوق، وبين أن تتحدث عن حدود للنشاط والحيوية والحركة، فقال لى "لا ضرر ولا ضرار" وعلمنى أن "درء المفاسد مقدم على جلب المنافع" ، ومن ثم فالحرية تنطلق في داخلها من بواعث الاستقامة الأخلاقية التى تستهدف منافع البشرلا مصالح السوق.
§ علمنى أن فساد البيئة يبدأ بفساد النفوس، وأن التلوث الأخلاقي المتمثل في الحقد والكراهية والعنصرية وازدواج المعاييرهو الذي يدفع إلى التلوث المادي ، وأن اختراق قيم الصدق والأمانة والوفاء هو الذي أدى إلى اختراق طبقة الأوزون، لأن النفس الفاسدة تشيع عدوى الفساد في كل ما حولها،
§ علمنى دينى أن الحضارة الحقيقية تبدأ بعمارة القلوب وطهارة النفوس، قبل أن تملأ الدنيا بغابات من الحديد والأسمنت المسلح يسميها البعض بناطحات السحاب، وأنه من الخير للبشر أن يعيشوا على الأرض وهم أطهار من أن يطيروا في الفضاء وهم لصوص.
خاطبنى ربي في الحديث القدسي معاتبا " إنى والإنس والجن في نبأ عظيم ، أخلق ويعبد غيرى ، أرزق ويشكر سواي ، خيرى إلى العباد نازل وشرهم إلى صاعد ، أتودد إليهم بنعمى وانا الغني عنهم ، فيبتعدون عنى بالمعاصى وهم أحوج شئ إلىًّ ، إن تابوا إلى فأنا حبيبهم أستقبلهم من بعيد مرحبا بالتائبين ، وإن لم يتوبوا إليًّ فانا طبيبهم، أبتليهم بالمصائب لأطهرهم من الذنوب والمعايب ، أهل ذكرى أهل مجالستى، أهل شكرى أهل زيادتى، أهل معصيتى لا أقنطهم من رحمتى،، إن تابوا إلىًّ فأنا حبيبهم أستقبلهم من بعيد مرحبا بالتائبين فإنى أحب التوابين وأحب المتطهرين، وإن لم يتوبوا إليًّ فانا طبيبهم، أبتليهم بالمصائب لأطهرهم من الذنوب والمعايب ، الحسنة عندى بعشر أمثالها وقد أزيد ، والسيئة عنى بواحدة وقد أعفو، رحمتى سبقت غضبى وحلمى سبق مؤاخذتى .
علمنى أنه لا يأس من رحمته أبدا ولا قنوط من غفرانه على الإطلاق فخاطبنى في الحديث القدسي قائلا "لو يعلم الدمبرون عنى كيف انتظارى لهم ورفقى بهم وشوقى إلى ترك معاصيهم لأقبلوا ، هذا بالمدبرين عنى، فكيف بالمقبلين عليًّ ؟"
علمنى أن دقيقة واحدة باقية في العمر إنما هي أمل كبير في رحمة الله فخاطب كل بنى جنسي جميعا قائلا:"ابن آدم أمرتك فتوليت، ونهيتك فتماريت وسترت عليك فتجرأت، وأعرضت عنك فما باليت. يامن إذا دعاه العبيد غدا ولبى، وإذا دعاه الجليل أعرض ونأى، إن سألتنى أعطيتك، وإذا دعوتنى أجبتك، وإن مرضتَ شفيتك، وإن سلمتَ رزقتك، وإن أقبلتَ قبلتك، وإن تبتَ غفرت لك وأنا التواب الرحيم"
فتح لى كل أبواب الرجاء مهما كانت حجم معصيتى ونبهنى إلى سعة رحمته حتى لا أقع فريسة للشيطان أو أسيرا لليأس فقال لى " إذا تبت إلينا ثم نقضت فارجع إلينا ثانية ، فإذا نقضت ثانية فلا يمنعك الحياء أن ترجع إلينا ثالثة، فأنا الحليم الذي لا أعجل، وأنا التواب الذي لا أبخل ، من ذا الذي وقف ببابنا فطردناه، من ذا الذي استقال من ذنبه فما غفرناه ، أنا الذي أغفر الذنوب وأستر العيوب وأغيث المكروب وأرحم الباكى الندوب وأنا علام الغيوب، ياعبدى قف ببابى أكتبك من أحبابى ولذ بحضرة جنابي أسقك من لذيذ شرابى"
علمنى أن كماله يحبر نقصنا وأن قوته ترحم ضعفنا وأن انكسارنا أمامه واعترافنا بضعفنا وإسائتنا باب إلى عفوه وغفرانه فقال " إن العبد العاصى إذا بكى من ذنوبه واعترف بعيوبه أمام سيد ومحبوبه وقال يا إلهى انا أسأت فيقول الله تعالى وأنا سترت، فيقول العبد ياإلهى وانا ندمت فيقول الله تعالى وانا علمت، فيقول العبد يا إلهى أنا رجعت فيقول الله تعالى وأنا غفرت "
عبدى لاتقنط من رحمتى ، إن كنت بالغدر موصوفا فأنا بالجود معروف. وإن كنت ذا خطايا فانا ذو عطايا ، وإن كنت ذا إساءة فإنا ذو إحسان ، وإن كنت ذا جفاء فأنا ذو وفاء ، وإن كنت ذا غفلة فأنا ذو رحمة ، وإن كنت ذا خشية وإنابة ، فأنا ذو قبول وإجابة"
وروي أن الأرض والبحر تآمرتاعلى ابن آدم فقالت الأرض يارب هذا عبدك خلقته بيدك ومهدتنى له بقدرتك فأكل رزقك وعبد غيرك فاذن لىأن أنخسف فأكون له قبرا ، وقال البحر يارب هذا عبدك خلقته بيدك وسخرتنى له بقدرتك فأكل رزقك وعبد غيرك فاذن لى أن أغرقه في معينى، فيقول الله تعالى يا أرضى ويا بحرى من الذي خلق عبدى؟ فتقول الأرض والبحر أن الذى خلقته ، فيقول الله تعالى أنا الذي خلقته ومن رزقى أطعمته، ومن روحى أحييته، وفوق ارضى حملته، وتحت سمائى ظللته، فإن عرفنى عرفته وإن ذكرنى ذكرته ، وإن نسينى ذكرته ، وغن خاصمنى صالحته وإن تباعد عنى ناديته فمن أين تجدون ربا مثلى وأنا الغفور الرحيم"
هذا هو سيدى الذي أحبه وأعبده ، اتذلل إليه فيعزنى ، أطيعه فيسعدنى، أعصيه واعترف بذنبى وأعود إليه فيراعى ضعفى ويقبلنى ويقبل علىَّ ويرضينى.
"إنه ربى" "إنه هو يبدئ ويعيد، وهو الغفور الودود، ذو العرش المجيد ، فعال لما يريد
إنه ربى "إن ربى رحيم ودود"
The attributes of God, Speech by Dr. Ibrahim Abu Mohammad
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
In the name of Allah the Most Gracious the Most Merciful
A devotee speaks about his Master and Lord
Allah is My Lord, My Lord is Most Merciful Most Loving
When Al-Hassan, son of Ali, was asked about the evidence for the existence of God, he turned his face away from the person asking the question and said: Glory to you My Lord, when did You become absent to need evidence to point to You? When did You become distant to need things to manifest Your presence, an eye that does not see Your Observing presence is indeed blind and a deal that does not have a share of your love is indeed a losing deal.
When Abu Bakr the Truthful was asked how he came to know His Lord, he said: I knew my Lord through my Lord, had it not been for my Lord, I would not have known my Lord. He was asked again: how did you know Him? He said: the inability to comprehend is comprehension and to search into the nature of God can lead to polytheism.
When Imam Ali was asked: Did you see your Lord, O Imam? He responded: How do I worship what I do not see. They asked: how have you seen Him? He said: If the eyes are incapable of seeing Him with their ability of sight, the hearts will see Him through the truth of faith.
Our human minds dear friends have their limits, just like electrical goods, if these goods were to be given a higher voltage, they may be ruined or they may even explode. In this sense, talking about God is only perfected if the speech follows the manner that God had chosen to introduce us to Himself. Further, the name Allah points to God, it is a name that had never been given to anyone else.
Allah is the first without beginning and the Last without Ending.
Allah is known through kindness and is described through perfection.
Allah is One, not from shortness of numbers, He exists without deficiency.
"He is the First and the Last, the Manifest and the Concealed, And He is the Knower of all things." (57:3)
It would not be right to enquire about Him with "where", because He created all place and space, it would not be right to ask about Him with "when" because He created time. Allah was when there was nothing, He is as He was, unchanged from what He was, He knows what was, knows what is, knows what will be, and knows what would not happen, if it were to happen, how it would have happened.
Allah sees all things, hears all things, His omniscience encoumpasses all things, He would not be distracted with seeing something from seeing another, He is not distracted with hearing something from hearing another, He is the Creator of all things, there is nothing like unto Him, He is the All-Hearing, All-Seeing.
"Allah is the Creator of all things, He is the Guardian and Disposer of all affairs. To Him belong the Keys of the heavens and the earth: and those who reject the signs of Allah, it is they who will be in loss." (39:62-63)
"With Him are the keys of the unknown, none know them except Him, He knows what is in the land and in the sea, there is not a leaf that falls except with His knowledge, nor a grain in the dark (depths) of the earth, nor something green or withered, except that it is in a clear record." (6:59)
He is not reached with the five senses, nor comparable to His creation: "No eyes can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all eyes, He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things." (6:103)
He is singularly unique with all the attributes of majesty, perfection and beauty, everything is subdued before His Might, submitting to Him, returning to Him, in His hand alone are the keys for all affairs, the entire earth is his grasp on the day of resurrection and the heavens are folded in his right hand, glory to Him and Elevated High is He above all that they associate with Him. He says concerning Himself: "We indeed give life and cause to die and to Us is the return. The day that the earth will be rent asunder, from (people) hurrying out; that will be a bringing together that is quite easy for Us." (50:43-44)
"Allah is He Who created you from dust, then from a sperm drop, then made you into male and female, no female conceives or lays down (her load) except with His knowledge, nor is a long lived person granted length of days nor is a part of his life cut off except that it is in a book, that is all easy for your Lord." (35:11)
"Allah knows what every female carries and what the wombs may fall short in or exceed (the duration of pregnancy), every single thing is before His sight in due proportion. He knows the unseen and that which is open, He is the Great, the Most High. It is the same (to Him) whether one of you keeps his speech secret or makes it openly, or one who hides at night or walks forth freely by day." (13:8-10)
"No eyes can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all eyes, He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things." (6:103)
"He is the Creator of the heavens and the earth, He made for you spouses from your own kind and made pairs from among cattle, by this means does He multiply you: there is nothing whatever like unto Him, He is the One that hears and sees all things. To Him belong the keys of the heaven and earth, He increases and restricts the sustenance to whom He wills, for He knows full well all things." (42:11-12)
He created me as an act of Grace from Him, He made worldly life the place of my testing to bring to reality His kindness towards me and His justice in relation to me.
He is not benefited from my acts of obedience nor harmed through my disobedience, despite that, He charges me with obligations as a point of honour, He commanded me and forbade me. Commanded me towards goodness to make me happy and forbade me from evil to protect me.
He sent me a messenger who was a "mercy to the worlds", so he explained all things to me, he elaborated on things that needed elaboration and clarified everything that was mysterious. His condition to believe in him (as Muhammad, the messenger of God, peace and blessings upon him) was to also believe in all his brothers, the prophets who preceded him, he asked me not to distinguish between them because he himself, peace and blessings upon him, never discriminated against any of them. This is why his followers are asked to believe in all the prophets and messengers and not to give him preference over them nor discriminate against any of them.
He knew who I was, from where I came, why I came and to where I will go. He defined clearly for me my goal, my role and my message in this world.
He sent for me a way of life (Sharia) that complements, completes and perfects all the preceding divine teachings. He told me in His revealed book: "The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah – that which We have sent by revelation to thee – and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses and Jesus: namely that you should remain steadfast in religion; and make no divisions therein: As to the polytheists, they see this as a difficult path to which you are calling them. Allah chooses to Himself whom He chooses and guides towards Himself those who turn to Him." (42:13). This Sharia protects me and protects all life around me; the environment, the people and the place.
He has taught me through this Sharia that life is sacred for all things, so it is not permissible to transgress against it, and that the human being is a construct from God, cursed is the one who demolishes it, and that whoever kills a soul other than in the course of justice or for spreading corruption on the earth, then it is as if he had killed all humanity and whoever saves a life, it is as if he saved all humanity.
He taught me through this way of life to add to the elements of beauty in life and to bring new beauty to this universe. He also taught me to confine the catalysts of ugliness and evil in others to the best of my ability. He also commanded me not to cause corruption saying: "Do not cause corruption in the earth after it had been set right". He taught me to protect the environment and the cleanliness of the street and to protect public order as being instrumental parts of my faith. He also commanded me to greet people with a cheerful face and to cooperate with them in removing harm. He taught me that the great heart is the one that shares others in their joys even when it is sad and their sorrows even when it is happy. He told me that my smile to the face of my brother is an act of charity, and providing guidance to a lost person is an act of charity and to take some of my property out of my bucket and put it in my brother's bucket is also an act of charity.
He taught me that He created the earth for all people, saying: "And the Earth, he placed for all people."
He taught me to champion the right to plurality in faith, race, language and that living with such plurality is not just a matter of choice made by people at their whims, but rather is a law made by God in relation to existence and that the person who will hold the highest honour with Allah is the one who rises above personal grudges and is forgiving with others and employs his skills and resources to help take humanity forward and improve their standard of life in accordance with the great Islamic principle that the best person is the one who is most beneficial to others, and that all people are dependent on God, the most beloved person to God is the one who is most beneficial to His dependents.
I learned from the human experience that freedom is a term that can only work with certain restrictions, my faith taught me that freedom is a term that must be defined and it distinguished between restrictive conditions and those that limit activity, livelihood and movement, it taught me the principle of "no harm" and that "avoiding harm takes priority over achieving a benefit." In this regard, freedom springs from catalysts that are based on moral uprightness which seeks to benefit humanity, not merely the benefit of the market.
My God taught me that pollution and corruption of the environment begins with a corruption in the soul and that moral pollution which is found in grudges, hatred, racism and duplicity in standards leads to physical pollution. He taught me that a breach in the values of truth, trustworthiness and loyalty leads to the breach in the Ozone layer because a corrupt soul will spread the ugliness of corruption throughout its surroundings.
My faith taught me that true civilisation begins with keeping the hearts alive and the souls pure, it does not with filling the world with concrete jungles and sky-scrapers. And that it is better for people to live on the ground whilst honest and pure than to soar into the horizon as thieves.
My Lord reproved me through His prophet, peace and blessings upon him, saying: "I and the Humans and Jinn have a great issue, I create, yet something else is worshipped, I provide but something else is thanked, My goodness descends upon them whilst their evil ascends to Me. I come to them with My blessings borne through My love for them whilst I have no need for them, yet they distance themselves from Me through acts of disobedience despite being the most dependent on Me. If they repent to Me, I am their beloved, I welcome them from a distance: welcome O penitent ones, if they do not repent to Me, I am their Doctor, I may afflict them with tribulations to cleanse them from sins and deficiencies. Those who remember Me are those who sit with Me, those who thank Me are they who receive more from Me, those who disobey Me, I will never forsake them of My mercy. A good deed is treated by Me like ten and I may increase whilst a bad deed is treated as one and I may forgive, My Mercy precedes My wrath and My forbearance precedes My bringing to account."
My Lord taught me never to despair of His Mercy or forgiveness. He stated to me through his prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings upon him: "Had those who turn away from Me known how I wait for them and how gentle I am with them and how much I long for them to cease from their acts of disobedience, they would come. This is for those who turn away from me, what do you think of those who come to Me?" He has taught me that even a minute of life left is long enough to have great hope in the Mercy of Allah, He has addressed my kind saying: "Son of Adam, I commanded you but you turned away, I forbade you but you did anyway, I concealed your faults but you became daring, I turned from you but you did not care. O you who when called by slaves responds but when called by the Majestic turns away and goes far, if you ask of Me, I will give you, if you pray to Me, I will respond to you, if you fall ill, I will cure you, if you submit, when cured, I provide for you, if you come to me, I accept you, if you repent, I forgive you for I am the Oft-forgiving Most Merciful."
God opened for me all the gates of hope regardless of the scale of my sin, he alerted me to the breadth of His mercy so that I do not fall prey to Satan or a prisoner of despair, He said to me: "If you repent to Us, then break your repentance, return to Us again, if you break it a second time, do not let your shame prevent you from returning a third time, I am the Forbearing who is not hasty, I am the Forgiving without holding back, who has ever stood in Our door and was repelled, who has ever resigned from his sin and did not find forgiveness? I indeed forgive the sins and conceal the faults and provide relief to the one with an affliction, I show mercy to the weeping penitent, I am the knower of the unknown, my slave, stand in my door, I will record your name on the list of those I love, enjoy nearness to me, I will give you to drink from my very delicious drink."
Allah has taught me that His perfection fixes our deficiency, that His power shows compassion to our weakness and that being humble before Him, acknowledging our weakness and shortcoming and sinfulness is the way to His forgiveness, He said: "When the disobedient slave weeps for his sins and acknowledges his faults before His Master and Beloved and says: My God, I have done wrong. Allah Most High will say: I will overlook (and cover your sins). The slave will say: I am regretful, Allah Most High will say: I know. The slave will say: My God, I have returned. Allah Most High will say: and I have forgiven."
"My slave, do not despair of My Mercy, if you have the trait of treachery because I am known for My Generosity, if you have mistakes, I am One that always gives, if you have committed wrong, I make right, if you are dry and distant, I have Loyalty, if you are oblivious, I am Merciful, if you are fearful and penitent, I am Accepting and Responsive."
It has been said that the earth and the oceans conspired against the son of Adam, the earth said: "O Lord, this slave of Yours, You created him with your own hand, you made me servile to him through your Power, he ate from Your provisions and worshipped others, permit me to crack under him and become his grave? The oceans said: O Lord, this slave of Yours, You created him with Your own hand, and made me servile to him through Your power, he eats from your provisions and worshipped other than you. Permit me to drown him inside me. Allah Most High asks: My earth and my oceans, who created my slave? The earth and the oceans will say: You are the One who created him. Allah Most High says: I am the One Who created Him and from My provisions fed him, from my very soul I have given him life, I carry him on my earth and under my heaven I provide him shade. If he gets to know me, I will know him, if he mentions me I will mention him, if he forgets me, I will remember him, if he was to show animosity towards Me, I will make peace with him, if he was to distance himself from Me, I will call him, where would you find a Lord like Me, I am the Most Forgiving Most Merciful."
This is my Master whom I love and worship, I humble myself to Him so he gives me honour, I obey him and He gives me joy. I disobey him, acknowledge my mistake and return to him, He considers my weakness, accepts me and comes to me and consoles me. "He is my Lord," "He initiates and brings back, He is the Forgiving the Loving, with the Glorious throne, He does as He chooses."
He is my Lord, "indeed My Lord is Most Compassionate, Most Merciful."
Prepared by Dr. Ibrahim Abu Mohammad
Translated by Keysar Trad
Delivered by Elsayed Kandil
In the name of Allah the Most Gracious the Most Merciful
A devotee speaks about his Master and Lord
Allah is My Lord, My Lord is Most Merciful Most Loving
When Al-Hassan, son of Ali, was asked about the evidence for the existence of God, he turned his face away from the person asking the question and said: Glory to you My Lord, when did You become absent to need evidence to point to You? When did You become distant to need things to manifest Your presence, an eye that does not see Your Observing presence is indeed blind and a deal that does not have a share of your love is indeed a losing deal.
When Abu Bakr the Truthful was asked how he came to know His Lord, he said: I knew my Lord through my Lord, had it not been for my Lord, I would not have known my Lord. He was asked again: how did you know Him? He said: the inability to comprehend is comprehension and to search into the nature of God can lead to polytheism.
When Imam Ali was asked: Did you see your Lord, O Imam? He responded: How do I worship what I do not see. They asked: how have you seen Him? He said: If the eyes are incapable of seeing Him with their ability of sight, the hearts will see Him through the truth of faith.
Our human minds dear friends have their limits, just like electrical goods, if these goods were to be given a higher voltage, they may be ruined or they may even explode. In this sense, talking about God is only perfected if the speech follows the manner that God had chosen to introduce us to Himself. Further, the name Allah points to God, it is a name that had never been given to anyone else.
Allah is the first without beginning and the Last without Ending.
Allah is known through kindness and is described through perfection.
Allah is One, not from shortness of numbers, He exists without deficiency.
"He is the First and the Last, the Manifest and the Concealed, And He is the Knower of all things." (57:3)
It would not be right to enquire about Him with "where", because He created all place and space, it would not be right to ask about Him with "when" because He created time. Allah was when there was nothing, He is as He was, unchanged from what He was, He knows what was, knows what is, knows what will be, and knows what would not happen, if it were to happen, how it would have happened.
Allah sees all things, hears all things, His omniscience encoumpasses all things, He would not be distracted with seeing something from seeing another, He is not distracted with hearing something from hearing another, He is the Creator of all things, there is nothing like unto Him, He is the All-Hearing, All-Seeing.
"Allah is the Creator of all things, He is the Guardian and Disposer of all affairs. To Him belong the Keys of the heavens and the earth: and those who reject the signs of Allah, it is they who will be in loss." (39:62-63)
"With Him are the keys of the unknown, none know them except Him, He knows what is in the land and in the sea, there is not a leaf that falls except with His knowledge, nor a grain in the dark (depths) of the earth, nor something green or withered, except that it is in a clear record." (6:59)
He is not reached with the five senses, nor comparable to His creation: "No eyes can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all eyes, He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things." (6:103)
He is singularly unique with all the attributes of majesty, perfection and beauty, everything is subdued before His Might, submitting to Him, returning to Him, in His hand alone are the keys for all affairs, the entire earth is his grasp on the day of resurrection and the heavens are folded in his right hand, glory to Him and Elevated High is He above all that they associate with Him. He says concerning Himself: "We indeed give life and cause to die and to Us is the return. The day that the earth will be rent asunder, from (people) hurrying out; that will be a bringing together that is quite easy for Us." (50:43-44)
"Allah is He Who created you from dust, then from a sperm drop, then made you into male and female, no female conceives or lays down (her load) except with His knowledge, nor is a long lived person granted length of days nor is a part of his life cut off except that it is in a book, that is all easy for your Lord." (35:11)
"Allah knows what every female carries and what the wombs may fall short in or exceed (the duration of pregnancy), every single thing is before His sight in due proportion. He knows the unseen and that which is open, He is the Great, the Most High. It is the same (to Him) whether one of you keeps his speech secret or makes it openly, or one who hides at night or walks forth freely by day." (13:8-10)
"No eyes can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all eyes, He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things." (6:103)
"He is the Creator of the heavens and the earth, He made for you spouses from your own kind and made pairs from among cattle, by this means does He multiply you: there is nothing whatever like unto Him, He is the One that hears and sees all things. To Him belong the keys of the heaven and earth, He increases and restricts the sustenance to whom He wills, for He knows full well all things." (42:11-12)
He created me as an act of Grace from Him, He made worldly life the place of my testing to bring to reality His kindness towards me and His justice in relation to me.
He is not benefited from my acts of obedience nor harmed through my disobedience, despite that, He charges me with obligations as a point of honour, He commanded me and forbade me. Commanded me towards goodness to make me happy and forbade me from evil to protect me.
He sent me a messenger who was a "mercy to the worlds", so he explained all things to me, he elaborated on things that needed elaboration and clarified everything that was mysterious. His condition to believe in him (as Muhammad, the messenger of God, peace and blessings upon him) was to also believe in all his brothers, the prophets who preceded him, he asked me not to distinguish between them because he himself, peace and blessings upon him, never discriminated against any of them. This is why his followers are asked to believe in all the prophets and messengers and not to give him preference over them nor discriminate against any of them.
He knew who I was, from where I came, why I came and to where I will go. He defined clearly for me my goal, my role and my message in this world.
He sent for me a way of life (Sharia) that complements, completes and perfects all the preceding divine teachings. He told me in His revealed book: "The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah – that which We have sent by revelation to thee – and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses and Jesus: namely that you should remain steadfast in religion; and make no divisions therein: As to the polytheists, they see this as a difficult path to which you are calling them. Allah chooses to Himself whom He chooses and guides towards Himself those who turn to Him." (42:13). This Sharia protects me and protects all life around me; the environment, the people and the place.
He has taught me through this Sharia that life is sacred for all things, so it is not permissible to transgress against it, and that the human being is a construct from God, cursed is the one who demolishes it, and that whoever kills a soul other than in the course of justice or for spreading corruption on the earth, then it is as if he had killed all humanity and whoever saves a life, it is as if he saved all humanity.
He taught me through this way of life to add to the elements of beauty in life and to bring new beauty to this universe. He also taught me to confine the catalysts of ugliness and evil in others to the best of my ability. He also commanded me not to cause corruption saying: "Do not cause corruption in the earth after it had been set right". He taught me to protect the environment and the cleanliness of the street and to protect public order as being instrumental parts of my faith. He also commanded me to greet people with a cheerful face and to cooperate with them in removing harm. He taught me that the great heart is the one that shares others in their joys even when it is sad and their sorrows even when it is happy. He told me that my smile to the face of my brother is an act of charity, and providing guidance to a lost person is an act of charity and to take some of my property out of my bucket and put it in my brother's bucket is also an act of charity.
He taught me that He created the earth for all people, saying: "And the Earth, he placed for all people."
He taught me to champion the right to plurality in faith, race, language and that living with such plurality is not just a matter of choice made by people at their whims, but rather is a law made by God in relation to existence and that the person who will hold the highest honour with Allah is the one who rises above personal grudges and is forgiving with others and employs his skills and resources to help take humanity forward and improve their standard of life in accordance with the great Islamic principle that the best person is the one who is most beneficial to others, and that all people are dependent on God, the most beloved person to God is the one who is most beneficial to His dependents.
I learned from the human experience that freedom is a term that can only work with certain restrictions, my faith taught me that freedom is a term that must be defined and it distinguished between restrictive conditions and those that limit activity, livelihood and movement, it taught me the principle of "no harm" and that "avoiding harm takes priority over achieving a benefit." In this regard, freedom springs from catalysts that are based on moral uprightness which seeks to benefit humanity, not merely the benefit of the market.
My God taught me that pollution and corruption of the environment begins with a corruption in the soul and that moral pollution which is found in grudges, hatred, racism and duplicity in standards leads to physical pollution. He taught me that a breach in the values of truth, trustworthiness and loyalty leads to the breach in the Ozone layer because a corrupt soul will spread the ugliness of corruption throughout its surroundings.
My faith taught me that true civilisation begins with keeping the hearts alive and the souls pure, it does not with filling the world with concrete jungles and sky-scrapers. And that it is better for people to live on the ground whilst honest and pure than to soar into the horizon as thieves.
My Lord reproved me through His prophet, peace and blessings upon him, saying: "I and the Humans and Jinn have a great issue, I create, yet something else is worshipped, I provide but something else is thanked, My goodness descends upon them whilst their evil ascends to Me. I come to them with My blessings borne through My love for them whilst I have no need for them, yet they distance themselves from Me through acts of disobedience despite being the most dependent on Me. If they repent to Me, I am their beloved, I welcome them from a distance: welcome O penitent ones, if they do not repent to Me, I am their Doctor, I may afflict them with tribulations to cleanse them from sins and deficiencies. Those who remember Me are those who sit with Me, those who thank Me are they who receive more from Me, those who disobey Me, I will never forsake them of My mercy. A good deed is treated by Me like ten and I may increase whilst a bad deed is treated as one and I may forgive, My Mercy precedes My wrath and My forbearance precedes My bringing to account."
My Lord taught me never to despair of His Mercy or forgiveness. He stated to me through his prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings upon him: "Had those who turn away from Me known how I wait for them and how gentle I am with them and how much I long for them to cease from their acts of disobedience, they would come. This is for those who turn away from me, what do you think of those who come to Me?" He has taught me that even a minute of life left is long enough to have great hope in the Mercy of Allah, He has addressed my kind saying: "Son of Adam, I commanded you but you turned away, I forbade you but you did anyway, I concealed your faults but you became daring, I turned from you but you did not care. O you who when called by slaves responds but when called by the Majestic turns away and goes far, if you ask of Me, I will give you, if you pray to Me, I will respond to you, if you fall ill, I will cure you, if you submit, when cured, I provide for you, if you come to me, I accept you, if you repent, I forgive you for I am the Oft-forgiving Most Merciful."
God opened for me all the gates of hope regardless of the scale of my sin, he alerted me to the breadth of His mercy so that I do not fall prey to Satan or a prisoner of despair, He said to me: "If you repent to Us, then break your repentance, return to Us again, if you break it a second time, do not let your shame prevent you from returning a third time, I am the Forbearing who is not hasty, I am the Forgiving without holding back, who has ever stood in Our door and was repelled, who has ever resigned from his sin and did not find forgiveness? I indeed forgive the sins and conceal the faults and provide relief to the one with an affliction, I show mercy to the weeping penitent, I am the knower of the unknown, my slave, stand in my door, I will record your name on the list of those I love, enjoy nearness to me, I will give you to drink from my very delicious drink."
Allah has taught me that His perfection fixes our deficiency, that His power shows compassion to our weakness and that being humble before Him, acknowledging our weakness and shortcoming and sinfulness is the way to His forgiveness, He said: "When the disobedient slave weeps for his sins and acknowledges his faults before His Master and Beloved and says: My God, I have done wrong. Allah Most High will say: I will overlook (and cover your sins). The slave will say: I am regretful, Allah Most High will say: I know. The slave will say: My God, I have returned. Allah Most High will say: and I have forgiven."
"My slave, do not despair of My Mercy, if you have the trait of treachery because I am known for My Generosity, if you have mistakes, I am One that always gives, if you have committed wrong, I make right, if you are dry and distant, I have Loyalty, if you are oblivious, I am Merciful, if you are fearful and penitent, I am Accepting and Responsive."
It has been said that the earth and the oceans conspired against the son of Adam, the earth said: "O Lord, this slave of Yours, You created him with your own hand, you made me servile to him through your Power, he ate from Your provisions and worshipped others, permit me to crack under him and become his grave? The oceans said: O Lord, this slave of Yours, You created him with Your own hand, and made me servile to him through Your power, he eats from your provisions and worshipped other than you. Permit me to drown him inside me. Allah Most High asks: My earth and my oceans, who created my slave? The earth and the oceans will say: You are the One who created him. Allah Most High says: I am the One Who created Him and from My provisions fed him, from my very soul I have given him life, I carry him on my earth and under my heaven I provide him shade. If he gets to know me, I will know him, if he mentions me I will mention him, if he forgets me, I will remember him, if he was to show animosity towards Me, I will make peace with him, if he was to distance himself from Me, I will call him, where would you find a Lord like Me, I am the Most Forgiving Most Merciful."
This is my Master whom I love and worship, I humble myself to Him so he gives me honour, I obey him and He gives me joy. I disobey him, acknowledge my mistake and return to him, He considers my weakness, accepts me and comes to me and consoles me. "He is my Lord," "He initiates and brings back, He is the Forgiving the Loving, with the Glorious throne, He does as He chooses."
He is my Lord, "indeed My Lord is Most Compassionate, Most Merciful."
Prepared by Dr. Ibrahim Abu Mohammad
Translated by Keysar Trad
Delivered by Elsayed Kandil
Interfaith Forum, the Attributes of God from a Muslim and a Christian Perspective
April 07, a program was jointly convened by the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, the Catholic Diocese of Parramatta and Initiatives of Change to discuss the Attributes of God from a Muslim and Christian Perspectives, this program was invitation only for community and religious leaders.
K Trad thanking the speakers, to his right are David Mills from Initiatives of Change and Ms. Hahifeh El Hassan who spoke from a Muslim perspective.
The speakers from right to left, K Trad who gave the word of thanks, Rev. Helen Richmond speaking from a Uniting Church perspective, Sh. Elsayed Kandil who translated for speaker Dr. Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, Dr. Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, Bishop Kevin Manning who opened the program, Dr. Gerard Kelly, Ms. Hanifeh El Hassan
K Trad thanking the speakers, to his right are David Mills from Initiatives of Change and Ms. Hahifeh El Hassan who spoke from a Muslim perspective.
The speakers from right to left, K Trad who gave the word of thanks, Rev. Helen Richmond speaking from a Uniting Church perspective, Sh. Elsayed Kandil who translated for speaker Dr. Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, Dr. Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, Bishop Kevin Manning who opened the program, Dr. Gerard Kelly, Ms. Hanifeh El HassanFriday, February 20, 2009
July 04, Interfaith Program, Castle Hill, Islamic Friendship, Catholic Diocese,
This was our second interfaith event, it was held in Castle Hill, the event was chaired by ABC radio personality and SMH columnist Mr. Richard Glover.
the speakers were:
His Grace, Bishop Kevin Manning, Catholic Diocese of Parramatta
Ms. Wendie Wilkie, Associate General Secretary of the Uniting Church in Australia
Ms. Suzan Meguid, local resident
Keysar Trad, Islamic Friendship Association of Australia Inc.
Keysar Trad speech summary with short references, Sharing Common Values Interfaith Event, Oct 03
Islamic Friendship Association of Australia – and the Catholic Diocese of Parramatta, first Muslim Christian Open Public Dialogue
Friday 17th October 2003
Speech by Keysar Trad
Madam chair, fellow speakers, his eminence the Mufty, distinguished guests, ladies and gentleman Good evening and peace and blessings to you all.
Being the final speaker, I only have one or two additional points, most of the main points have already been covered.
The bible says:
Deuteronomy 6:5, Matthew 22:37, Mark 12:30 and Luke 10:27 To love God with all your heart and all your soul.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
The Qur`an, the book that we Muslims believe to contain the final words of God tells us how to follow the commandments and points us to role models of our own human kind such as Abraham, Moses, Christ and Muhammad peace and blessings upon them all. These role models applied all the commandments faithfully in their lives and showed us how to lead a life full of spirituality and love. In this regard, God tells His messenger Muhammad peace and blessings upon him to say:
Qur`an 3:31 If you indeed love God, follow me and God will love you and forgive you your sins.
God also tells us in the Holy Qur`an
24:22 Forgo and forgive if you would like God to forgive you.
2:195, 3:148, 5:13 (and other verses) Do good, God loves those who do good.
2:222 God loves the penitent and those who purify themselves.
3:76 God loves those who are pious
3:134 Those who overcome their grudge and those who forgive people, Allah loves those who do good.
3:146 God loves those who patiently persevere
3:159 God loves those who rely on Him
5:43, 49:9 God loves those who are just
23:96 and 41:34: repel evil with goodness.
One of the names of Allah is the Loving, another is the forgiving, another is the Most Compassionate and another is the Most Merciful.
Quoting Christ, John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
The prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings upon him) said: None of you is a true believer until you love for your brother (in humanity) what you love for yourself.
He also said: You will not truly believe until you love one another … in order to love one another you must promote peace.
God also tells us never to despair of receiving His grace and Compassion saying at 39:53: “Say to My devotees who have wronged themselves, do not despair of the Mercy of Allah, Allah forgives all sins, He indeed is the Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
The Qur`an tells us at 19:21 referring to Christ (peace and blessings upon him): “We will make him a sign to people and a mercy from Us.” And tells us at 21:107 that the prophet Muhammad was sent to this world to bring compassion and mercy: “We only sent you as a mercy to the worlds.”
The prophet Muhammad himself described his mission as one to complete the teachings of the most noble mannerisms and character traits.
He also said: "My example and the example of the prophets before me is the same as that of a man who built a house, then beautified it and decorated it, except for the position of one brick in one of its corners, the people would go around this house, and marvel at it, and say: If only this brick was put in place? I am that brick, I am that brick, and I am the seal of the prophets."
As for the Qur`an itself, it states at 16:89: “We sent down to you the book to clarify all things and as a guidance, a grace (and compassion) and good news for those who submit to God.”
17:9 “Indeed this Qur`an guides to that which is straighter and gives glad tidings to the believers who do good, that they have a great reward.”
27:1-3 “Tah Seen, these are the verses of the Qur`an, a book of clarity, a guidance and glad tidings to the believers, those who establish prayer, give pure charity and believe with certainty in the final life.”
And at 46:12 “Before it was the book of Moses, a leader and a mercy, this is a book confirming, in the Arabic language, to caution those who do wrong and give good news to those with beautiful conduct.”
Now for the name Islam, a word that sums up two meanings, one of peace and the other of surrender to God, two principals that are just as central to Christianity as they are to Islam.
What all this indicates is that the message of prophet Muhammad peace and blessings upon him is a continuation of the divine revelations. It continues the message of love and peace and submission to God that was brought by Noah, Abraham, Moses and Christ. What we heard from the previous speakers proves beyond doubt our common origin and purpose and the respect that we share for each other and the respect we enjoy as a society. The case presented about our ability to live together has been proved. I wish to take us to something else, why it is so crucial for us as faith communities to work together.
Here we have two faiths based on love and goodwill, based on friendship and compassion, with such commonality in goals, the message of the Qur`an to us as believers in God, is to work together on the basis of our mutual agreement in the belief in God, refer 3:64 “Say O people of the book (Christians and Jews are referred to in the Qur`an as people of the book), come to a term that is mutually agreeable to us and to you, that we worship none other than God and that we not associate any partner in Him and that we not take each other as lords beside God. As for those who turn away, say (to them): bear witness that we have submitted to the will of God.”
It is in our interest to heed this call from God and to work together, many amongst us would know and have battled against a number of social challenges that seem to be growing day by day.
There is the challenge of keeping families together in the face of increasing separations and break-downs, there is the challenge of teaching young people to respect their elders, and teaching the elders to have compassion and mercy for the young, there is the challenge of teaching youth to work towards constructive long term goals in the face of great distractions, there is the challenge of helping one another realise that happiness is not elusive but is reachable and enjoyable regardless of material conditions and without artificial stimulants. There is the challenge of putting out the fire of violence and war that keep getting ignited every now and again. There is the challenge of promoting friendship and goodwill amongst each other. Respecting the role that each of us must fulfil for our respective communities will help us in offering constructive solutions to these and other challenges.
To begin addressing these challenges, we must emulate the mission of love and compassion portrayed by the two great teachers Christ and Muhammad peace be upon them both. We have to nurture our souls and help others to rediscover and nurture their’s. We have to remind each other of the values of faith, perseverance and compassion as God tells us in the Qur`an at 90:17.
After this, can anyone look at us, sitting here together and say that we are two groups? Yes, we are Muslims and Christians, two very close but distinct faiths and we are together as one group, united in our love for God and for each other.
Our love for God is the cause, it is our motive, this meeting is the effect of this great love, the rest, the impact, what you take from here tonight, is entirely up to you.
I invite everyone here to read about each other’s faith with an open mind, to objectively consider each other’s way of life and to praise God for everything we have in common.
Peace and love to all.
Friday 17th October 2003
Speech by Keysar Trad
Madam chair, fellow speakers, his eminence the Mufty, distinguished guests, ladies and gentleman Good evening and peace and blessings to you all.
Being the final speaker, I only have one or two additional points, most of the main points have already been covered.
The bible says:
Deuteronomy 6:5, Matthew 22:37, Mark 12:30 and Luke 10:27 To love God with all your heart and all your soul.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
The Qur`an, the book that we Muslims believe to contain the final words of God tells us how to follow the commandments and points us to role models of our own human kind such as Abraham, Moses, Christ and Muhammad peace and blessings upon them all. These role models applied all the commandments faithfully in their lives and showed us how to lead a life full of spirituality and love. In this regard, God tells His messenger Muhammad peace and blessings upon him to say:
Qur`an 3:31 If you indeed love God, follow me and God will love you and forgive you your sins.
God also tells us in the Holy Qur`an
24:22 Forgo and forgive if you would like God to forgive you.
2:195, 3:148, 5:13 (and other verses) Do good, God loves those who do good.
2:222 God loves the penitent and those who purify themselves.
3:76 God loves those who are pious
3:134 Those who overcome their grudge and those who forgive people, Allah loves those who do good.
3:146 God loves those who patiently persevere
3:159 God loves those who rely on Him
5:43, 49:9 God loves those who are just
23:96 and 41:34: repel evil with goodness.
One of the names of Allah is the Loving, another is the forgiving, another is the Most Compassionate and another is the Most Merciful.
Quoting Christ, John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
The prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings upon him) said: None of you is a true believer until you love for your brother (in humanity) what you love for yourself.
He also said: You will not truly believe until you love one another … in order to love one another you must promote peace.
God also tells us never to despair of receiving His grace and Compassion saying at 39:53: “Say to My devotees who have wronged themselves, do not despair of the Mercy of Allah, Allah forgives all sins, He indeed is the Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
The Qur`an tells us at 19:21 referring to Christ (peace and blessings upon him): “We will make him a sign to people and a mercy from Us.” And tells us at 21:107 that the prophet Muhammad was sent to this world to bring compassion and mercy: “We only sent you as a mercy to the worlds.”
The prophet Muhammad himself described his mission as one to complete the teachings of the most noble mannerisms and character traits.
He also said: "My example and the example of the prophets before me is the same as that of a man who built a house, then beautified it and decorated it, except for the position of one brick in one of its corners, the people would go around this house, and marvel at it, and say: If only this brick was put in place? I am that brick, I am that brick, and I am the seal of the prophets."
As for the Qur`an itself, it states at 16:89: “We sent down to you the book to clarify all things and as a guidance, a grace (and compassion) and good news for those who submit to God.”
17:9 “Indeed this Qur`an guides to that which is straighter and gives glad tidings to the believers who do good, that they have a great reward.”
27:1-3 “Tah Seen, these are the verses of the Qur`an, a book of clarity, a guidance and glad tidings to the believers, those who establish prayer, give pure charity and believe with certainty in the final life.”
And at 46:12 “Before it was the book of Moses, a leader and a mercy, this is a book confirming, in the Arabic language, to caution those who do wrong and give good news to those with beautiful conduct.”
Now for the name Islam, a word that sums up two meanings, one of peace and the other of surrender to God, two principals that are just as central to Christianity as they are to Islam.
What all this indicates is that the message of prophet Muhammad peace and blessings upon him is a continuation of the divine revelations. It continues the message of love and peace and submission to God that was brought by Noah, Abraham, Moses and Christ. What we heard from the previous speakers proves beyond doubt our common origin and purpose and the respect that we share for each other and the respect we enjoy as a society. The case presented about our ability to live together has been proved. I wish to take us to something else, why it is so crucial for us as faith communities to work together.
Here we have two faiths based on love and goodwill, based on friendship and compassion, with such commonality in goals, the message of the Qur`an to us as believers in God, is to work together on the basis of our mutual agreement in the belief in God, refer 3:64 “Say O people of the book (Christians and Jews are referred to in the Qur`an as people of the book), come to a term that is mutually agreeable to us and to you, that we worship none other than God and that we not associate any partner in Him and that we not take each other as lords beside God. As for those who turn away, say (to them): bear witness that we have submitted to the will of God.”
It is in our interest to heed this call from God and to work together, many amongst us would know and have battled against a number of social challenges that seem to be growing day by day.
There is the challenge of keeping families together in the face of increasing separations and break-downs, there is the challenge of teaching young people to respect their elders, and teaching the elders to have compassion and mercy for the young, there is the challenge of teaching youth to work towards constructive long term goals in the face of great distractions, there is the challenge of helping one another realise that happiness is not elusive but is reachable and enjoyable regardless of material conditions and without artificial stimulants. There is the challenge of putting out the fire of violence and war that keep getting ignited every now and again. There is the challenge of promoting friendship and goodwill amongst each other. Respecting the role that each of us must fulfil for our respective communities will help us in offering constructive solutions to these and other challenges.
To begin addressing these challenges, we must emulate the mission of love and compassion portrayed by the two great teachers Christ and Muhammad peace be upon them both. We have to nurture our souls and help others to rediscover and nurture their’s. We have to remind each other of the values of faith, perseverance and compassion as God tells us in the Qur`an at 90:17.
After this, can anyone look at us, sitting here together and say that we are two groups? Yes, we are Muslims and Christians, two very close but distinct faiths and we are together as one group, united in our love for God and for each other.
Our love for God is the cause, it is our motive, this meeting is the effect of this great love, the rest, the impact, what you take from here tonight, is entirely up to you.
I invite everyone here to read about each other’s faith with an open mind, to objectively consider each other’s way of life and to praise God for everything we have in common.
Peace and love to all.
Susan Meguid speech at the Sharing Common Values Interfaith Program Oct 03
Good evening Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Suzan Meguid. I am a born Muslim. I was born in Egypt. My family migrated to Australia when I was 1 year old. I grew up in the Hills District. I attended Castle Hill Primary School and then James Ruse High School. I am a pharmacy graduate of the University of Sydney. I currently own a pharmacy in Auburn. I am also a mother of three beautiful girls. As you can see I am an Australian girl who has done pretty much what most Australians do, study, work, get married and start a family. Sometimes people ask me ‘what nationality are you’ and I reply ‘Australian’. They say ‘ yes but what nationality are you’ and I repeat ‘Australian’. That is what I am. I have an Egyptian cultural background but I am an Australian. Australia is my country, my home. I sing the national anthem with pride just like every proud Australian.
I have lived in the Hills for over 25 years. I love the area and would never move anywhere else. I feel at home there. I always tell my Muslims friends how much I love living in the Hills. The people are so much like me, hardworking, well spoken, well mannered and polite. They help each other, chitchat, smile and are friendly. These are the type of people I love living around. I am pleased to say I have not experienced any alienation from my neighbours or my community. When I go down to the shops I truly feel like everyone else there. I may look different because I wear the scarf. But I am not different. And I don’t believe anyone else there sees me otherwise. Actually, I was grocery shopping one day and this lovely lady came up to me and said ‘ you are so beautiful. I love how you wear your headgear. You look angelic’.
I take my daughters to swimming lessons every Thursday morning at the Castle Hill RSL Club and I have made so many friends. The people are so friendly. In fact, I think some people go out of their way to be extra friendly just so they can show me that they are open minded and accepting. The older ladies that do the aqua aerobics class while I am there are so great. They wish me a happy Ramadan; they play with my girls and always ask how I am. Some people ask me things about my religion, which is fantastic. They often apologise and say ‘I hope I didn’t offend you by asking that’. No way! I think it’s wonderful that we all get to know each other’s customs and beliefs. How else are we going to understand each other and work together as a community?
It’s a real shame the media portrays the Anglo Saxon community as being xenophobic; because this is not the experience I have come across. I know the majority of my community are not narrow minded and certainly not bigots.
I moved to Glenhaven 1 year ago, which is right next door to Castle Hill. My neighbours came over to welcome my family and I. They look out for us and vice versa. That’s what neighbours do. We borrow eggs and sugar from each other, we talk over the fence, we discuss schools, local events and so on. I even went to cheer my neighbour on at the orange blossom festival recently. It was great. 2 days ago my neighbour approached me on my way to work and asked if my husband or I could mind her son after school for a couple of hours until she gets home from work. I was privileged, not only does she enjoy my company but she trusts me with her children, which as a mother I know is not easy to do.
After the events of September 11 and with the media attacking the Muslim community the way they did, I was for the first time in my life scared to go down to the shops. I wanted to cry out to everyone in my area ‘I am the same person you saw as a friend yesterday and I like you am appalled at this gross act of terror’. After a day of sitting at home, which is quite unlike me, I finally mustered the courage and ventured down to Castle Hill Shops. To my astonishment I did not even get a second look. People went about their business as per normal. The shop assistants were just as friendly; people still made chitchat with me while waiting in line and mothers still came up and adored my girls. I felt ashamed that I made the same mistake as the media. I committed the crime that I beg people not to commit. I prejudged. I prejudged that many would fall victim to the media hysteria when in fact my community proved to me what I have always known and experienced, that they are open minded, accepting, and caring people. They are Australians.
This probably all sounds quite normal to you, well it is normal. This is what I am trying to say. I am a normal Australian citizen like everybody else. I was at the Olympics cheering on Cathy Freeman and Thorpe. I regularly go to the gym, I listen to 2dayFM, I love sports, reading, laughing and socialising with my friends. As you can see the scarf over my hair does not make me any different to anybody else nor does it stop me from living a normal life and achieving my goals.
I am a pharmacist and I work in Auburn, which is highly populated with Muslims. I meet Lebanese, Iraqi, Somali, Afghani and Pakistani people everyday. They are just like us. Sure some of them may not have grown up here and maybe their English is not up to scratch but they still do the same things we do. They love, they laugh, they read, they go out and enjoy the same things we do.
I laugh when I turn on the radio or read in the paper about ‘Islamic terrorists’. It’s funny because Islam means peace. So this new phrase the media has coined really means peace terrorists. It’s an oxymoron. It just doesn’t make sense. I think it’s sad that our political leaders are inadvertently instilling fear in the Australian community. Why would you want your constituents to live in fear especially when there is no tangible or credible threat to Australia? It’s not healthy for a community. It’s not healthy for a multicultural community. It’s just not healthy for this country. Islam, like Christianity is a peaceful religion. The actions of individuals should never reflect on the religion. Humans are humans, you get the good and unfortunately there are some bad. The problem is though, once a Muslim does anything wrong, his religion is immediately aired on every TV channel in Australia. Which makes it just that little bit harder for us to prove that generally we are a peaceful community.
I would like to finish off by asking each and every one of you to open you hearts and minds to each other. Whether we are Muslims or Christians, we all share common values. Lets continue live side by side in peace and harmony. Lets learn about each other religions and cultures without prejudice. This, after all, is what makes life more interesting.
Ladies and Gentlemen, thank you.
I have lived in the Hills for over 25 years. I love the area and would never move anywhere else. I feel at home there. I always tell my Muslims friends how much I love living in the Hills. The people are so much like me, hardworking, well spoken, well mannered and polite. They help each other, chitchat, smile and are friendly. These are the type of people I love living around. I am pleased to say I have not experienced any alienation from my neighbours or my community. When I go down to the shops I truly feel like everyone else there. I may look different because I wear the scarf. But I am not different. And I don’t believe anyone else there sees me otherwise. Actually, I was grocery shopping one day and this lovely lady came up to me and said ‘ you are so beautiful. I love how you wear your headgear. You look angelic’.
I take my daughters to swimming lessons every Thursday morning at the Castle Hill RSL Club and I have made so many friends. The people are so friendly. In fact, I think some people go out of their way to be extra friendly just so they can show me that they are open minded and accepting. The older ladies that do the aqua aerobics class while I am there are so great. They wish me a happy Ramadan; they play with my girls and always ask how I am. Some people ask me things about my religion, which is fantastic. They often apologise and say ‘I hope I didn’t offend you by asking that’. No way! I think it’s wonderful that we all get to know each other’s customs and beliefs. How else are we going to understand each other and work together as a community?
It’s a real shame the media portrays the Anglo Saxon community as being xenophobic; because this is not the experience I have come across. I know the majority of my community are not narrow minded and certainly not bigots.
I moved to Glenhaven 1 year ago, which is right next door to Castle Hill. My neighbours came over to welcome my family and I. They look out for us and vice versa. That’s what neighbours do. We borrow eggs and sugar from each other, we talk over the fence, we discuss schools, local events and so on. I even went to cheer my neighbour on at the orange blossom festival recently. It was great. 2 days ago my neighbour approached me on my way to work and asked if my husband or I could mind her son after school for a couple of hours until she gets home from work. I was privileged, not only does she enjoy my company but she trusts me with her children, which as a mother I know is not easy to do.
After the events of September 11 and with the media attacking the Muslim community the way they did, I was for the first time in my life scared to go down to the shops. I wanted to cry out to everyone in my area ‘I am the same person you saw as a friend yesterday and I like you am appalled at this gross act of terror’. After a day of sitting at home, which is quite unlike me, I finally mustered the courage and ventured down to Castle Hill Shops. To my astonishment I did not even get a second look. People went about their business as per normal. The shop assistants were just as friendly; people still made chitchat with me while waiting in line and mothers still came up and adored my girls. I felt ashamed that I made the same mistake as the media. I committed the crime that I beg people not to commit. I prejudged. I prejudged that many would fall victim to the media hysteria when in fact my community proved to me what I have always known and experienced, that they are open minded, accepting, and caring people. They are Australians.
This probably all sounds quite normal to you, well it is normal. This is what I am trying to say. I am a normal Australian citizen like everybody else. I was at the Olympics cheering on Cathy Freeman and Thorpe. I regularly go to the gym, I listen to 2dayFM, I love sports, reading, laughing and socialising with my friends. As you can see the scarf over my hair does not make me any different to anybody else nor does it stop me from living a normal life and achieving my goals.
I am a pharmacist and I work in Auburn, which is highly populated with Muslims. I meet Lebanese, Iraqi, Somali, Afghani and Pakistani people everyday. They are just like us. Sure some of them may not have grown up here and maybe their English is not up to scratch but they still do the same things we do. They love, they laugh, they read, they go out and enjoy the same things we do.
I laugh when I turn on the radio or read in the paper about ‘Islamic terrorists’. It’s funny because Islam means peace. So this new phrase the media has coined really means peace terrorists. It’s an oxymoron. It just doesn’t make sense. I think it’s sad that our political leaders are inadvertently instilling fear in the Australian community. Why would you want your constituents to live in fear especially when there is no tangible or credible threat to Australia? It’s not healthy for a community. It’s not healthy for a multicultural community. It’s just not healthy for this country. Islam, like Christianity is a peaceful religion. The actions of individuals should never reflect on the religion. Humans are humans, you get the good and unfortunately there are some bad. The problem is though, once a Muslim does anything wrong, his religion is immediately aired on every TV channel in Australia. Which makes it just that little bit harder for us to prove that generally we are a peaceful community.
I would like to finish off by asking each and every one of you to open you hearts and minds to each other. Whether we are Muslims or Christians, we all share common values. Lets continue live side by side in peace and harmony. Lets learn about each other religions and cultures without prejudice. This, after all, is what makes life more interesting.
Ladies and Gentlemen, thank you.
Speech by Ms. Wendie Wilkie, Associate General Secretary, Uniting Church in Australia
Speech to Islamic Christian meeting
It is my great pleasure to be here tonight. That we can meet like this I as members of two different faiths is a reminder that living together in harmony and mutual respect is possible.
Our two faiths traditions have within them many exhortations to live with one another in peace. Both of our traditions acknowledge God as the creator of this world and our creator. Our common humanity puts us together on this small blue planet, we cannot pretend any longer - if we ever could, that we can live as though the other did not exist or that only one group has rights and needs. It is more than tolerance that will bring true peace and harmony between us. It will take leadership, it needs intentional and ongoing meetings between us to build relationships at all levels, it needs us to learn about each other’s faith to some extent so we can understand and appreciate one another better, to support one another in the celebration and patterns of our faith. It need us to respect each other as people of faith - we have that in common that we are people of faith. It will require us to take risks for the sake of those relationships, to stoep outised our comfort zone and to perhaps challenge our own communities at times for the sake of those relatiomships in order to build peace. It will require openness and empathy for one another..
Let me tell you some modern stories to illustrate what I think is required.
Within a few days of the twin towers being shattered in USA on September 11, a large group of Christians and Muslims met for dinner here in Sydney. It had been planned many months earlier but the irony of its timing did not escape the 80 people who gathered. Affirmations of the commitment to build the yet young and fragile relationship were made and a common statement condemning the horror bombing was read. In the days that followed , as reactions against Muslims, and abuse of Muslims occurred, Christian leaders visited mosques and supported their Muslim brothers and sisters publicly. Many local leaders in my own church phoned me, expressing concern for Muslims in their area and the reactions they were suffering, asking how could they do something,, how could they help . Many congregations ran public meetings about Islam and began to relate to their Muslim neighbours in the area. Later when Christian churches were attacked in Sydney, Muslim leaders visited, to express concern and affirm their horror at this supposed retaliation. Last year when Muslim communities were going through a rough time and on the front pages of the news, they held a press conference. At the press conference was a Christian leader of the National council of churches, Rev John Henderson, – sitting there as a friend of the Muslims running the press conference and a symbol of support and concern for the Muslim community. It wasn’t mentioned in the press reports, but he was there, intentionally. Such actions give credence to our talk about support and care.
In my congregation two families suffered in the Bali bombing. A much loved grandson suffered horrible burns and died after a long and harrowing week. A young woman mourned the death of close friend. Many congregations in my church grieved with families and others over this senseless death and destruction. Some were angry but most were deeply saddened. People in my church were moved again, not to retaliate, but to once again be concerned for what reactions might be happening to Muslims. There is a renewed interest in learning about Islam, renewed interest in meeting and learning about the Muslim communities, a strong interest in reaching out. An as those relationships are built so new patterns of friendship and relationship gradually emerge with understanding and appreciation. Not everyone wants to do this but many do.
At a meeting of 1500 young Christina in January this year I ran a session on interfaith dialogue. It was the first time such a session had been part of this bi-ennial conference fro young Christians. I took with me a rabbi and an imam to meet the se young people rather than me speak about their faiths. They spoke of growing up in Australia as a minority faith, about being an immigrant in Australia. Because these were not speeches defending a faith but stories about being faithful, the young people felt able to ask all the questions they had, even the tough and difficult ones.. It is this kind of meeting and interaction that is also important, much like what we are doing tonight.
I visited Ambon earlier this year at the invitation of a unique group of women. A group of Muslim and Christina women who had come together to commit themselves to work for peace in a very troubled and divided community. As women they were deeply concerned that they were tiered of the killing and the violence, were grieved and deeply saddened by the loss of some nay ovoid ones. They talked about the four years of conflict and told stories of what it had been like for their families and their communities. As one Muslim woman said – we have all suffered. This remarkable group of women committed themselves to work on joint community projects and to continue to demonstrate by their commitment to each other that peace was possible and to encourage other women young and old and their men folk to see such possibility for the sake of the whole community. It was a remarkable gathering of remarkable women. It reminded me that real peace and real relationships involves risk and courage – risk to go beyond what we know, what we feel secure in, to be open to learn new things about ourselves and our communities as well as about others. It may also lead us to challenge our own communities and some of their attitudes and practices. What these women did challenged their communities. .For these women to meet they had to have police on duty in the compound to ensure their safety, safety we take for granted here in Ausrtalia..
We are at a point in our history where we have enormous opportunities to lead our communities in finding common ground and living together in peace and harmony. There are real differences in our faiths which we have to face but our relationships will not be strong if we don’t face them. But we can only face them because of the strength of our relationships. Let us continue to seek each other out, to be open and caring, delighting in each other and what we learn, able to face common difficulties and common threats. Let there be peace and let it begin with us.
Wendie Wilkie
17 October 2003
It is my great pleasure to be here tonight. That we can meet like this I as members of two different faiths is a reminder that living together in harmony and mutual respect is possible.
Our two faiths traditions have within them many exhortations to live with one another in peace. Both of our traditions acknowledge God as the creator of this world and our creator. Our common humanity puts us together on this small blue planet, we cannot pretend any longer - if we ever could, that we can live as though the other did not exist or that only one group has rights and needs. It is more than tolerance that will bring true peace and harmony between us. It will take leadership, it needs intentional and ongoing meetings between us to build relationships at all levels, it needs us to learn about each other’s faith to some extent so we can understand and appreciate one another better, to support one another in the celebration and patterns of our faith. It need us to respect each other as people of faith - we have that in common that we are people of faith. It will require us to take risks for the sake of those relationships, to stoep outised our comfort zone and to perhaps challenge our own communities at times for the sake of those relatiomships in order to build peace. It will require openness and empathy for one another..
Let me tell you some modern stories to illustrate what I think is required.
Within a few days of the twin towers being shattered in USA on September 11, a large group of Christians and Muslims met for dinner here in Sydney. It had been planned many months earlier but the irony of its timing did not escape the 80 people who gathered. Affirmations of the commitment to build the yet young and fragile relationship were made and a common statement condemning the horror bombing was read. In the days that followed , as reactions against Muslims, and abuse of Muslims occurred, Christian leaders visited mosques and supported their Muslim brothers and sisters publicly. Many local leaders in my own church phoned me, expressing concern for Muslims in their area and the reactions they were suffering, asking how could they do something,, how could they help . Many congregations ran public meetings about Islam and began to relate to their Muslim neighbours in the area. Later when Christian churches were attacked in Sydney, Muslim leaders visited, to express concern and affirm their horror at this supposed retaliation. Last year when Muslim communities were going through a rough time and on the front pages of the news, they held a press conference. At the press conference was a Christian leader of the National council of churches, Rev John Henderson, – sitting there as a friend of the Muslims running the press conference and a symbol of support and concern for the Muslim community. It wasn’t mentioned in the press reports, but he was there, intentionally. Such actions give credence to our talk about support and care.
In my congregation two families suffered in the Bali bombing. A much loved grandson suffered horrible burns and died after a long and harrowing week. A young woman mourned the death of close friend. Many congregations in my church grieved with families and others over this senseless death and destruction. Some were angry but most were deeply saddened. People in my church were moved again, not to retaliate, but to once again be concerned for what reactions might be happening to Muslims. There is a renewed interest in learning about Islam, renewed interest in meeting and learning about the Muslim communities, a strong interest in reaching out. An as those relationships are built so new patterns of friendship and relationship gradually emerge with understanding and appreciation. Not everyone wants to do this but many do.
At a meeting of 1500 young Christina in January this year I ran a session on interfaith dialogue. It was the first time such a session had been part of this bi-ennial conference fro young Christians. I took with me a rabbi and an imam to meet the se young people rather than me speak about their faiths. They spoke of growing up in Australia as a minority faith, about being an immigrant in Australia. Because these were not speeches defending a faith but stories about being faithful, the young people felt able to ask all the questions they had, even the tough and difficult ones.. It is this kind of meeting and interaction that is also important, much like what we are doing tonight.
I visited Ambon earlier this year at the invitation of a unique group of women. A group of Muslim and Christina women who had come together to commit themselves to work for peace in a very troubled and divided community. As women they were deeply concerned that they were tiered of the killing and the violence, were grieved and deeply saddened by the loss of some nay ovoid ones. They talked about the four years of conflict and told stories of what it had been like for their families and their communities. As one Muslim woman said – we have all suffered. This remarkable group of women committed themselves to work on joint community projects and to continue to demonstrate by their commitment to each other that peace was possible and to encourage other women young and old and their men folk to see such possibility for the sake of the whole community. It was a remarkable gathering of remarkable women. It reminded me that real peace and real relationships involves risk and courage – risk to go beyond what we know, what we feel secure in, to be open to learn new things about ourselves and our communities as well as about others. It may also lead us to challenge our own communities and some of their attitudes and practices. What these women did challenged their communities. .For these women to meet they had to have police on duty in the compound to ensure their safety, safety we take for granted here in Ausrtalia..
We are at a point in our history where we have enormous opportunities to lead our communities in finding common ground and living together in peace and harmony. There are real differences in our faiths which we have to face but our relationships will not be strong if we don’t face them. But we can only face them because of the strength of our relationships. Let us continue to seek each other out, to be open and caring, delighting in each other and what we learn, able to face common difficulties and common threats. Let there be peace and let it begin with us.
Wendie Wilkie
17 October 2003
First event in October 03, An Open Forum, Sharing Common Values
This was and interfaith program jointly convened with the Catholic Diocese of Parramatta and Initiatives of Change. The above photo shows the four speakers, the facilitator and the Mufti of Australia who presented the plaques and flowers.
The event was facilitated by Ms. Geraldine Doogue
The speakers were:
His Grace Bishop Kevin Manning, Catholic Diocese of Parramatta
Ms. Wendie Wilkie, Associate Gen. Sec. Uniting Church of Australia
Ms. Suzan Meguid,
Keysar Trad, Islamic Friendship Association of Australia Inc.
The speeches will be posted later insha Allah. For the time being, some of the speeches can be accessed from my website: http://dev.speednet.net.au/~keysar/
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